VNN/Racial Holy War and Deportation

I found this thread on VNN and found it very interesting.  I wanted to comment so I am posting it here.

 

 

Ryan J. Murdough For my children     Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 36

Racial Holy War and Deportation Considering the amount of anti white rallies, marches, crimes, and events, I believe that a racial holy war will inevitably take place in the United States. Soaring non white crime, non white immigration, and racial mixing are all just tools that are being used against white people to inevitably destroy us once and for all. The biggest problem however is white indifference to wards these issues. White people live in fear and have become complacent to just live as best they can without offending anyone by standing up for their race. This mindset has allowed our enemies to take control of us despite the fact that we are still overwhelmingly the majority in the United States. The question that I would pose to white people who think I am crazy for such a belief is, “what is your solution”? How would you like to stop white women from being raped at an astronomically high rate by Negroes? How would you like to put an end to the non white crime that plagues this country? How many white people are tired of seeing their towns and cities that were once great places to raise a family turned into a cesspool of true diversity and multiculturalism? How many white people are tired of not getting jobs because they have to make room for incapable, less intelligent non whites? Most importantly, how much longer do you intend to not do anything about it? Obviously once this race war is over, we will have to decide what to do with the losers(non whites). I believe that the only solution is to deport them all to their countries of origin. The question I ask to the white people who think that I am crazy for advocating this is, what would this country be like if slaves had never been shipped over here? What would this country be like if non whites were never allowed to immigrate here? I think we all know the answer. We would not be totally crime free and there would still be problems but it would no doubt feel like a utopia compared to what we have now. The main thing that white people need to get over is the idea that we will be able to vote our way out of this problem. Trying to elect the right candidates has not worked thus far so why should anyone believe it will work someday? Both major parties have done nothing but cater to and appease non whites while ignoring and neglecting the race of people who made this country great. We can’t look to our elected officials to do anything to protect our children and families. The only solution is a revolution.

 

One problem I see with White Nationalists is that they turn everything into a racial problem.  They blame every single problem this country is facing on Non Whites, Jews, Women, or anyone else.  Instead of trying to find the reasons why things are happening so that we can work together as a country to deal with them, you spend all this time and energy blaming others.

I am just one American but I am willing to fight for what I think is the moral thing to do and that is saving this nation.  I think other Americans are willing to fight too.  Yes, there are bad things that have been happening and some of them are downright evil, the way that our Constitution has been ignored by those in power.  I can assure we the people (which includes Americans of all different races, religions, and includes both men and women ) are going to start fighting back.

We are angry that our Constitution has been allowed to be discarded and evil men in power have committed war crimes such as torture, that greed has been allowed to go unchecked and our environment is being destroyed for that greed.  I believe we will reach the point where we as honorable Americans can stand back and be silent anymore, but will join the fight against all that would want to destroy America and the values that this country was founded on.

My solution to girls/women being raped is to punish those who rape them.  It isn’t only non whites who rape, but Whites too.  My rapists were White.  Many times justice doesn’t get done anymore in this country and crime victims are left feeling angry because the people who commit the crimes get away with it.  While  the victim continues to suffer the pain.  We need to work on our criminal justice system and put the people in prison that broke the Laws and release those who are not guilty of any crimes.

It seems like some people feel that we need another American Revolution.  We even have a woman Congresswoman from MN who is talking about taking up arms and fighting a new Revolution.  She is Republican so I would say there are Republicans who share your views.  How many White Nationalists are Republicans who are undercover in the party?  I know in 2004 Euro we talked about how to be active in the Republican party. 

I just don’t think it helps solve the problems that this country is facing and the hard times coming down the pike to turn it into a racial battle.  Many these Non Whites you want to send to another country  were born here in America. They are American and have only lived in America.  Do you think that sending a Black person to Africa who was born in America and his family has lived here for generations is going to help the economy recover?  Do you really think that deporting Americans to another country because you don’t like the color of their skin is going to help make America a better place?  Do you think deporting all Jewish people to Israel is the American way?  I know you think in your own little minds that America was founded by White people only for White people, but that is just a White Nationalist lie.

I just can’t buy your White Nationalism is the only hope for America to solve our problems.   Sorry, I believe that the answer is working together as one country and moving into the future and not looking backward.  That is why I like the Progressive message, because I think it is a message of the future.

Kievsky Senior Member     Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Democratic-Republic of Jewishagendastan Posts: 2,681

Ryan, First of all you have to understand that the masses of Whites see these same things and it is a source of irritation that they have accepted as “a necessary evil.” They are bribed and threatened into complacence, and they “don’t allow themselves to think those ‘evil’ thoughts” that maybe multiculturalism isn’t a good thing. So if you want to be a serious WN activist, you have to use terms and vocabularies of ordinary people, that will develop rapport with them. “Racial holy war” is the sort of term that will make ordinary white people see you as a dangerous lunatic and a fringe character. White Americans have lost their “normal” because it’s been destroyed and replaced with a pathologically evil “normal.” What we need to do is create a healthy “normal” again, and help White people find their way out of this spiritual and intellectual wilderness. To do this we have to set an example, and we have to appear credible and “normal” (what’s left of normal) to them. But it sounds like you need to calm down, and be a bit more hopeful. Look Ryan, if it helps, the US economy which supports multiculturalism, is collapsing. Ergo, multiculturalism is collapsing with it, though this is not yet obvious to the masses. I have always seen things a few years ahead of time. Old timers around here remember when I used to be the VNN Forum’s very own “Chicken Little,” saying back in 2004 that the price of oil is going to go way up and the economy is going to collapse. Come 2008, oil is 147 a barrel, and people said, “Well, maybe Kievsky had a point after all.” Then the stock market tanked and the price of oil went back down thanks to demand destruction and oil contract deleveraging. The possibility of collapse doesn’t seem so crazy now, as it did in 2004. Multiculturalism is a high energy demand, highly entropic, and unsustainable system. I don’t believe that it was done with a long term plan in mind. I believe multiculturalism was designed so jews would have the satisfaction of farting in our faces and making most of us (the lemmings) pretend that it smells like roses. The VNN’ers and Stormfronters are the ones saying, “That doesn’t smell like flowers, that smells like a rotten egg fart of some obese, evil jew! and look the jew laughs as he farts in our faces and picks our pockets!” Multiculturalism and economic collapse is going to lead to massive economic, cultural and political collapse, and it’s going to be discredited for the long term. I believe this will happen in our lifetime.

I understand what your plan is in trying to get White people to accept your message.  My question to you is, ok you dress up White Nationalism behind a mask of being American patriots who love their country and in order to save America turn America into an all White Nation.  Instead of quoting Hitler you start to quote Thomas Jefferson.  Instead of using the symbols you have used for years you start using Celtic symbols and American symbols like the American flag.  Your message is still the same, but you tone it down so that mainstream conservatives will join you.

I know you think you will slowly educate them to overlook the racism that you have in your White Nationalist message, because they will see things through White Nationalist colored glasses.  Slowly and slowly like a frog being cooked on the stove that doesn’t know he is being cooked because the heat is turned up slowly, you will have re-educated them to accept the hate that is spewing in your message.

Tell me what happens when those who have been slowly programmed to believe your message start to wake up and realized they have been brainwashed to believe a lie?  Do you think they may join the other side and start fighting you?  Your message is a lie.  It is not truth.  At some point the people wake up and their real person starts to come out again.  They awaken from the nightmare that is White Nationalism and they find their way home to the real person they are inside.  Instead of being stuck in la la land, they find their way back to the real world.  Most of you White Nationalists live in la la land.

Yes, you use fear to get people to join you.  Make someone else the bogie man that has to be fought.  You tell them it is the Jews fault or it is the Black man’s fault that we are in an economic depression and that they are suffering.  That is how Hitler was able to gain power.  He blamed all of Germany Economic problems and social problems on the Jewish people.  He fooled people into thinking that he had the answer and that he would bring them paradise. That is why I don’t take you White Nationalists for granted.

You are a real threat to this country, because your message in times of economic struggles plays and when people are hurting and suffering and worrying about where their next meal is going to come from, or having a roof over their head, will reach for any promise of a better day, even if it means embracing White Nationalism.  So like in Germany they believed the lie of Hitler, we could have in America people believing the lie of white nationalism.

I believe though that in the end your message of White Nationalism will be defeated.  I believe that Americans will stand up to you and say NO, we are not going to allow you to gain political power in this country, and I also believe that we as Americans will not allow you to deport Americans who were born here just because they are non white or Jewish. 

There is coming a time, when I believe true American Patriots will stand up to your hate and evil and that in the end good will overcome evil, and America will once again be a nation of light to the rest of the world. Where once again truth, justice, and freedom mean something again in this country.  Where as our founding fathers brought hope, that we too as Americans will bring hope that good people will not tolerate evil in our midst and we will defeat the darkness that you have already brought and want to continue to bring to the world and this country.