I found this thread on SF and since I want to comment on it as a Catholic I am posting it here.
http://austriantimes.at/index.php?id=12871
 |  Proud Italian Priest Wears Swastika Armband… Swastika priest A priest has shocked parishioners by welcoming them to church wearing a swastika armband. Fascist Father Angelo Idi, 51 – who once saw off a charity box thief with a truncheon at his church in Vigevano, Italy – confessed: “I am proud of my right wing beliefs. But people shouldn’t care about my politics, they should care about how good a priest I am.” In northern Italy where former dictator Benito Mussolini comes from the far right Italian LEGA NORD (Northern League) have their political stronghold – and there have been several instances of priests with far right views that have embarrassed the Catholic Church. |
As a Catholic I am very sad that we have priests in our church who so openly display their Far Right political leanings. Then again maybe it is better that they expose themselves.
Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 56  | Re: Proud Italian Priest Wears Swastika Armband… This priest rocks! Wish we had more priests like him. As a Catholic, this makes me proud. Can’t imagine a Protestant minister doing this! |
Well, as your fellow Catholic, this priest makes me ashamed that we have priests who feel their White Nationalist political beliefs have a place in the church. Of course you who is a White Nationalist Catholic are happy as it just makes your political views more acceptable and you can justify your hate because the Priest holds the same views.
I know you don’t care Mr. White Nationalist Catholic, but I do care that our church is becoming more divided. I care Mr. White Nationalist Catholic that many Catholics are leaving the church because they feel that the church has lost sight of our true mission in the world. You may rejoice that our church is becoming more political and embracing your White Naationalism, but there are many Catholics around the world who believe your message goes against everything Jesus taught and has no place in the church.
Shall we compare the message that Jesus taught with the message that Hitler taught? Jesus taught love and compassion, helping your fellow men and being a light of good in the world. Hitler taught the Aryan race was superior to other races, believed in killing the Jews and all the other people he declared as inferior to his Germanic race of super humans.
Right there I can see a difference in their message and this priest who believes as Hitler believes is a disgrace to our church and I hope the Pope removes him. I would also hope Mr. White Nationalist Catholic who is so proud of this priest that the majority of Catholics around the world feel the way I do and will make our voices heard.
Just when Jesus gets me to the place that I decide to be active again in the church because I can do more good from inside, than some Right Wing White Nationalist Catholic does something that makes me think so this is what my beloved church as become. Well, not this time. This just makes me more determine to fight your message that is growing within the church.
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We have one in my area too. They are not considered real Catholic Churches. I know you White Nationalist Catholics like to say that the churches who supported Vitican II turned away from the true faith, but there are many of us who think Vitican II was a good thing. It wasn’t perfect, but it had a lot of good things in it. I don’t want to go back to the way things were, but would like to move forward. I speak English and I like having the mass in English. I know you would like to have an all latin mass, but what is wrong about having the mass in English? Many of you hate the folk mass, but what is wrong with the folk mass?
Yes, you have your pro-white anti jewish books, but the message you preach in your White Nationalist Catholic Churches is not the true message of Christ. He loves all races and saves all races. You only love the White race. Don’t you see you are walking in the darkness of your hate and not in the love of Christ.
I know I will be accused again of being anti-White but that is such a lie. I am White. I don’t hate myself or anyone. I am anti-White Nationalist which to you is anti-white, but it just means I am against your message. I think it is funny that you call me the racist for standing up toward your message of hate.
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The Jews keep telling Christians that “Church and state should be separate.” We should never listen to them.
Notice they never say that “synagogue and state” should be separate.
Yes, in your eyes the perfect example of what a priest should be. Will you join the Catholic Church now Mr. White Nationalist? This priest that you admire has turned his back on the true message of Christ and the Church. His political Nazi views is more important than service Jesus Christ and being the light of Christ in the world. I know you would never understand the difference in message between Christ and Hitler, but there is a big difference.
I will be praying that the Pope does the right thing and makes it loud and clear to the world where the Catholic Church stands on Priests who have chosen their White Nationalist message over the message of Christ and the church.
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While his views will draw you to the Catholic Church, his views will drive me away and I with other Catholics will have to form our own churches where the true message of Christ is preached because you White Nationalists would have destroyed the true mession of our church. We would have stopped being Catholic and would have become the White Nationalist Church that is used to justify your hate so that you can still call yourself Catholic, but would have lost the ture meaning of what it means to be Catholic.
I truly tremble when I see what is happening in the church I love. I love the Catholic Church. I had considered becoming a nun in my youth and went to convent school. The people who I knew in the religious life would never embrace your White Nationalist teaching in our church. I would like to think that this priest does not represent the majority of priests in our church.
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You would like that wouldn’t you. Using the Catholic Church to make your message more mainstream. Not count on it, as I think we Catholics are smart enough to see through that ploy.
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I thought I would post some of the pictures from the even from April 11, 2009. Since Hedge was so kind as to mention the pictures I thought I would post them for the world to see. I wouldn’t want to disappoint you White Nationalists who want your pictures to be posted on the internet, lol.
I know that these White Nationalists like to say they are not nazi, but look at the tatoos. I see nazi symbols. As I replied to Hedge they look like loosers to me. Actually they look scary. I would be afraid to meet up with any of those guys on the streets of Boston. I still think that you are dangerous thugs and that I am right on supporting the good guys who don’t want you to gain a foothold in Massachusetts or even in New England. I told you before Scott or Hedge that I used to live in Massachusetts and hold that place very dear in my heart and I will fight to stop you from spreading your message of hate in the Bay State. I will fight to keep you street thugs off the streets of Massachusetts. My ancestors came over on the Mayflower and helped with the founding of the Commonwealth so you must know I will continue to fight you guys.
To be fair, I must honestly say that the two Euro Conferences I went to in New Orleans, LA were attended by normal looking people. The guys wore suits and ties and we women were either in dresses or nice dress pants. There were people who didn’t look like these thugs. I actually had a great time, because I was away and free from my mother for the few days I was gone. I partied and enjoyed my freedom. I made some friends that weekend. They are a different quality of person.
One of the things I could never understand about White Nationalism is that you have this big tent of people who range from skinheads who are street gangs to Euro who present a more respectable face to the world. White Nationalists don’t seem to understand that people judge them on the actions of what skinhead gangs do with nazi tatoos because they claim they are united as one. Even though Euro people are not hardcore and are for the most conservatives who are proud of their race and good ole Southern Boys they are still being judged by the actions of others who they claim as White Nationalist brothers because of their motto White Pride World Wide. It isn’t fair, but one is judged by who they are associated with. So within this one big tent of White Nationalism you have the good ole Southern Boy with his charm who is conservative in his views all the way to the scary looking that are in these pictures.
Yes, Scott it looks like you had a great turnout. LOL Oh, by the way, Scott likes to post here using sock puppets so Hedge could very well be Scott.
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http://www.democracynow.org/2009/2/25/we_will_rebuild_in_national_address
“We Will Rebuild”: In National Address, Obama Offers Ambitious Pledge on Economic Recovery, Healthcare Reform
In his first address to a joint session of Congress, President Obama vowed the nation will be able to rebuild and recover from the economic crisis that has left millions unemployed and pushed millions out of their homes. Obama called on Congress to invest in areas like energy, healthcare and education, while admitting that hard decisions need to be made to reduce the federal deficit. President Obama also said he would soon announce a plan to end the war in Iraq and eliminate no-bid contracts to military contractors.
Exposing more White Nationalist Hate. This is from Stormfront.
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Should Jews pay reparations to Whites? Jews have accumulated vast fortunes by taking advantage of their white hosts. Even “innocent” Jews likely had their expensive educations paid for with I’ll-gotten family money. I think all Jewish wealth should be confiscated in the form of reparations. This illegaly obtained money should be used to pay down the debt of Western Nations. The Jews, after all, are responsible for these debts.
What do Jews think about repaying thousands of years of scams, schemes, and tax-evasion? This would allow the Jews to start with a clean slate. Jews that chose to go to medical school could work for it like everyone else. Jewish merchants could begin paying taxes and charging reasonable finance charges. Some Jews could even go to work. In short, the Jews would have the opportunity to go straight. |
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Re: Should Jews pay reparations to Whites? Yes.
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This guy wants the Jews to leave the planet earth forever. Can you feel the love?
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Re: Should Jews pay reparations to Whites? If a thing sounds too good to be true it probably is.
I’d be satisfied if they just let go of the insides of our intestines and like good little tapeworms, just let themselves slide on out, circle the bowl a few times, and then proceed to the sewer. |
This is the same person who wanted the Liberal who asked a question to die and be cut up in little pieces. It doesn’t surprise me he would be adding his two cents to this thread of hate toward Jewish people. So besides Liberals he also hates Jews. Notice he is a Freind of Stormfront and not just a member.
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Re: Should Jews pay reparations to Whites? it would be nice to have all our stolen treasurey back but to have them gone off the face of the earth completely will do.
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Many times. I used to live in a 40% Jewish neighborhood. I knew Jews who committed sexual immorality, coercing an under-age girl to have sex, (and in a health care situation), as well as stole from each other, didn’t meet payroll; one man was a psychologist who went to jail for tax fraud, and I knew a girl who had the great misfortune of being his “client,” when she was younger, and when she was really confused, he coerced her to take off her clothes for her “sessions.” (This is a different guy from the one mentioned above). I could go on. Once when I was sick, physically, and trying to recover from something, one really went out of her way to befriend me, and kept telling me to borrow money (500K) to buy a house, really working me, to the point that I could have done it. Thank God I just finally told her to get away from me. That same person worked for lawyers, three of whom wound up being charged with fraud related to their business practice. There would be no way to calculate the tangential harm of ideas that have entered my culture through liberal Jews (having to read all Marx and the Frankfurt school in college, when I could have pursued my own interests, which I was trying to pay for, for instance—is that theft of the 100K for college, etc.) Not to mention the abortion movement, all the Jewish feminists books we had to read to prep us in college for the grand event of abortion, then pro-abortion counseling, and the totally coerced abortion, where I was damaged permanently. I don’t have enough time in a day to name names. And where are all the Jewish lawyers then??? Poof…like smoke. You have to be black to get a Jewish lawyer for “justice.” |
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Re: Should Jews pay reparations to Whites? Ship them all to Israel, let the Palestinians guard the walls and towers with confiscated guns from the jews. Let the jews have their money. I, somehow, doubt the Palestinians will accept any of their bloodmoney. Let us see them eat their money.
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Filed under: Pakistan, Uncategorized | Tags: Marriot Hotel, Pakistan, suicide bombing, United States
The Huffington Post
Sept 20, 2008
Explosion At Pakistan Marriot Hotel
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Asif shahzad
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — A massive suicide truck bomb devastated the heavily guarded Marriott Hotel in Pakistan’s capital Saturday, killing at least 40 people and wounding at least 250. Officials feared there were dozens more dead inside the burning building.
The blast targeting the U.S. hotel chain appeared to be one of the largest terrorist attacks ever in Pakistan, leaving a vast crater some 30 feet deep in front of the main building, where rescuers ferried a stream of bloodied bodies.
The five-story Marriott had been a favorite place for foreigners as well as Pakistani politicians and business people to stay and socialize in Islamabad despite repeated militant attacks.
Hospital staff and other officials said about 250 people were wounded, including four Britons, four Germans and one each from the U.S., Denmark, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Libya, Lebanon and Afghanistan. The Saudi ambassador said several airline staff from the kingdom’s national airline were missing.
The bombing came just hours after President Asif Ali Zardari made his first address to Parliament and days ahead of the new leader’s meeting with President Bush Tuesday in New York on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly.
Rehman Malik, the head of Pakistan’s Interior Ministry, told The Associated Press that authorities had received intelligence that there might be militant activity due to Zardari’s inaugural address. Security had been tightened, he said.
Though there was no immediate claim of responsibility for the blast, Pakistani officials have warned that militancy could heat up following a wave of cross-border strikes on militant bases by U.S. forces in Afghanistan, which had angered public opinion.
IntelCenter, a group which monitors al-Qaida communications, said senior al-Qaida leader Mustafa Abu al-Yazid, who claimed the June Danish Embassy bombing in Islamabad, threatened additional attacks against Western interests in Pakistan in a video timed to the recent anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.
“This is terrorism and we have to fight it together as a nation,” Malik told reporters at a hospital overflowing with the wounded.
The United States strongly condemned the attack.
“President Bush offers his sincere condolences to the families of all those lost in today’s vicious attack,” said Gordon Johndroe, a spokesman for the National Security Council at the White House. “This is a reminder of the threat we all face. The United States will stand with Pakistan’s democratically elected government as they confront this challenge.”
The hotel served as the headquarters for the international media during the 2001 war against the Taliban in neighboring Afghanistan. Its nearly 300 rooms and popular health club stood in a plot surrounded by government office buildings less than a mile from the presidency and Parliament.
Witnesses and officials said a large truck had rammed the high metal gate of the hotel at about 8 p.m., when the hotel’s restaurants would have been packed with diners, including Muslims breaking the Ramadan fast.
A U.S. State Department official led three colleagues through the rubble from the charred building, one of them bleeding heavily from a wound on the side of his head.
One of the four, who identified himself only as Tony, said they had begun moving toward the rear of the Chinese restaurant after a first, small blast and that a second explosion threw them against the back wall.
“Then we saw a big truck coming to the gates,” he said. “After that it was just smoke and darkness.”
Mohammed Asghar, a worker from a nearby office with a makeshift bandage round his head, said there was more than one man in the truck and that they had argued with the hotel guards.
“Then there was a flash of light, the truck caught fire and then exploded with an enormous bang,” he said.
Mohammad Sultan, a hotel employee, said he was in the lobby when something exploded. He fell down and everything temporarily went dark. “I didn’t understand what it was, but it was like the world is finished,” he said.
Senior police official Asghar Raza Gardaizi said rescuers had counted at least 40 bodies at the scene and that he feared that there “dozens more dead inside.”
Associated Press reporters saw at least nine bodies scattered at the scene. Scores of people, including foreigners, were running out _ some of them stained with blood.
Ambulances rushed to the area, picking their way through the charred carcasses of vehicles that had been in the street outside. Windows in buildings hundreds of yards away were shattered. Tropical fish from the tanks inside lay among the torn furnishings in the entrance area.
Marriott said it was working with rescue personnel and local authorities to aid the victims.
“We live in a dangerous world and this is a terrible tragedy. We grieve for those people who died, or were injured, and their families,” Bill Marriott, chairman and CEO of Marriott International, said in a statement.
In January 2007, a security guard blocked a suicide bomber who triggered a blast just outside the Marriott, killing the guard and wounding seven other people.
Pakistan has faced a wave of militant violence in recent months following army-led offensives against insurgents in its border regions, including several in the capital.
In July, a suicide bombing killed at least 18 people, most of them security forces, and wounded dozens in Islamabad as supporters of the Red Mosque gathered nearby to mark the anniversary of the military siege on the militant stronghold.
In June, a suicide car bomber killed at least six people near the Danish Embassy in Islamabad. A statement attributed to al-Qaida took responsibility for that blast, believed to have targeted Denmark over the publication of cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad.
In mid-March, a bomb explosion at an Italian restaurant killed a Turkish woman in the capital, and wounded 12 others, including four FBI officials.
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Associated Press writers Stephen Graham, Nahal Toosi, Zarar Khan and Munir Ahmad contributed to this report.
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I have been reading this thread on Stormfront and it has turned into an interesting thread. I have found myself wanting to comment so I have decided to post this here in my journal.
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Hypocrisy within our movement??????
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I like many things about what Stormfront stands for but there is one issue that disgusts me about this website. This issue is the arab issue.
1) You guys say that Mexicans, blacks, aborigines, Filipinos etc…. act the way they do (uncivilized) because of innate genetic reasons. But when it comes to why arabs act uncivilized in Western countries the answer that you guys always give is because “we go and meddle in their affairs”. Really?
An arab could blow half of this nation into oblivion tomorrow and you guys would still be saying “it is because we meddled in their affairs”. By saying this you guys are giving them a pass and claiming everything they do is the fault of whites.
2) Over 3,000 innocent Americans were killed on 911, and you guys still demonize your own troops more than you do the arab terrorists. Why? Is it because we support Isreal? Is it because we are trying to liberate the Iraqis? What are we doing that is so horrendous compared to what the arab terrorists did to us? When have we INTENTIONALLY gone and killed innocent people? Answer: never.
It isn’t Jews fighting this war. It was white men who decided to start this war and it is white men who are fighting on the front lines to keep you and your family safe. But yet you stand against your own blood on the side of these uncivilized arabs who respect nothing about Western Civilization or white people in general. Why do you do this?
You say white people are among the LEAST prone to crime in the world (us and North East Asians) but yet you act as if we are bigger barbaric devils in the war on terror than the arabs we are fighting. Why? How does this make any sense?
Here is a point to ponder: Saying that arabs commit horrific acts against whites just because “we meddle in their affairs” is just like saying the blacks in South Africa are murdering the whites there because whites “meddled in their affairs”.
3) David Duke and many other leaders of this movement spend more time siding with the liberals talking about how we shouldn’t be Iraq than discussing the bigger issue: the third world invasion of white nations.
How does this do us any good? I have even heard some “white nationalists” say they would vote for Obama just because he is a pacifist who wants to play nice with arabs. Some times I can’t believe what I read on here.
Does David Duke want arabs to come live with us since they are such wonderful people? Is that what he wants? If not, he sure has me and many other whites fooled with his constant arab pandering.
I think my above reason (and the only reason) I am at many times disgusted with this movement is quite valid. Anyone want to explain all this to me in a polite manner?
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Anyone with half a brain cell knows I do not agree or respect David Duke. Yet I know what it is like to have lies spoken so much about you that the lies become stronger than the truth. I didn’t like being treated like that and I will not treat David Duke that way.
Who is the real David Duke? I have met him before in person and I still don’t know who the real David Duke is.
You made a comment that David Duke sided with Liberals. Excuse me? What have you been smoking?
I am a Liberal. Was an orginal flower child of the Bay Area in the 60’s. Moved back and forth between California and New England. Protested against the War and was a trouble maker at school standing up for students rights and was a real rebel. Rebel with a Cause. I was a product of the North.
David Duke was a product of the South. His heroes were George Wallace and mine were the Kennedy Brothers.I marched to my own drummer and not my parents who were Goldwater Conservatives.. David Duke was raised a true Conservative like Goldwater which is why I think my mother sounds like David Duke. She was from KS and for a brief period went to John Birch Society meetings in Los Angeles. He was ROTC in high school. He thought of a military career. He remembers a very different time in American history. David Duke was raised as a good ole boy from the South.
There may be issues that White Nationalists and Liberals like me agree on. War in Iraq, George W. Bush, Impeachment, War Crimes, Torture etc. We may be working on some of the same issues but we are not working together. I know in the past that WN would try to work together with Liberals protesting the Iraq War and were turned down. Liberals didn’t want to join forces with White Nationalst to protest the Iraq War.
David Duke hasn’t joined forces with Liberals. So know you are wrong as far as that statement. I know it is hard to find out who the real David Duke behind the mask. I know I am just one of the few who would like to know who the real David Duke is? I am sure other people are curious about him too. Maybe we could start a treasure hunt looking for the real David Duke, lol.
You do have problems within your movement. One Big problem you have is you have to many men who claim to be White Nationalist that treat women horridly. As much as WN deny that little truth, it doesn’t change the fact that WN is not women friendly for the most part. That is a fact.
There is domestic abuse in some White Nationalist homes. There are disfuntional families. Any woman who fights for rights to be treated better, to fight for better edcation and programs for girls is considered by the men within your Cause an evil feminist and told she is trying to destroy the White male. She could be the most traditonal of woman, but if she wants to not be abused and treated like a human being instead of a slave, she will be called an evil witch as I was by Jeff. Do you know how they treat people who are branded as witches? It is not fun and is not a barrow full of laughs.
This is a problem that effects all of American society in some shape and form. Yet I don’t see a move within your Cause to address these issues and other issues that need to be addressed. Such as leaders who are into child porn like Kevin Strom. That too is a fact. It is also a fact that other leaders knew and said and did nothing. What else are they hiding?
The American government hasn’t done a very good job either. You have American kids growing up with PTSD in this country and are angry. Somebody should start listening and show they care.
To much sweeping things under the rug and not wanting to shine the light on the rot so as to expose just how bad things are. People would rather deny and pretend, than roll up their sleeves and try to solve the problems let alone find out the truth. Do you think it is because they already know the truth deep down inside but don’t know what to do and then end up doing nothing?
Yes, you have Hypocrisy within your Cause just as there is hyprocrisy in all political parties or groups these days. I do believe White Nationalism is a political view. You can deny it but you have to have some system of government in mind for once you achieve your goal and dream for a White Nation. You might not talk about it to the people, but you must have some kind of idea of what form of government you would start.. I don’t buy that White Nationalist leaders like David Duke have no idea of what form of government they would like to have in a White Nation. Besides I have always been a political person and I tend to like to look at things from a political point of view.
I am listening to a radio interview with David Duke and right now he is blaming feminists for the destruction of the American family. I remember hearing that he was for women being involved in Politics so I thought he was more open to the idea of women fighting for rights than some WN men I had met in my life, but this is the 2nd time I have heard him say from his lips that he blames women for the problems in the world. I am coming to the conclusion that he is not someone who cares about women and our fight to be treated like human beings.
I think he would be another one who left me holding the bag in a fight. I would watch his back but he wouldn’t watch mine. I don’t think he is someone to depend on in a fight; so therefore he is not hero material. Abused children and women can’t look to him for help.
Feminism to me is fighting for women’s rights. The right to vote was a very big issue to us.There are WN men who believe women should not be able to vote or deny the vote to women who do not vote WN.
Do I agree with everything that NOW stands for? No, but NOW is not the beginning of Feminism and American women fighting to gain Civil Rights in this country.NOW does not speak for all Feminists. The way I have been accused of lumping all White Nationalists together you are doing the same thing regarding Feminists.
For to long I have been afraid to use the word Feminist to decribe myself because I was made to feel like I would be doing something evil. I will not be silent anymore. I will find my voice as other women who have gone before have found their voice. I am WOMAN hear me ROAR.
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Published on Friday, May 16, 2008 by The Philadelphia Daily News
Bush and EPA Wage War on Science
We all Lose When Scientists Are Asked to Hide Inconvenient Truths
Editorial
A child’s biopsy shows early-stage cancer, with a high survival rate if treated in time. But his parents secretly pressure the doctor to alter the results because they don’t want to pay the medical bills.
Criminal? Immoral? It’s not so different from what’s been happening at the Environmental Protection Agency these days. Except that the health of all of us, as well as our planet, is at stake.
Evidence has been mounting for some time of growing dangers to our environment from ozone, mercury, carcinogens, and, the most cataclysmic of all, global warming. But the EPA has been pressuring its scientists to withhold inconvenient truths, and thus the need to do something about them.
The list of alleged falsehoods and manipulations is long and outrageous. Here are some lowlights listed by U.S. Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., before Senate hearings held last week:
* The EPA “falsified data and fabricated results” about the safety of the air around Ground Zero in New York City following the Sept. 11 attacks.
* The EPA edited reports on climate change, including a 2003 report on the environment, to counteract scientific data confirming the reality of global warming.
* EPA has “hidden, delayed, or suppressed” scientific findings that displeased certain industries. For example, it sat for nine months on a 2002 report on the effects of mercury on children’s health — and then released it only after it was leaked to the media.
The Bush War on Science has been overt for years now, and a survey released last month by the Union of Concerned Scientists provides more evidence of how deeply corrupt EPA has become.
In a questionnaire sent to more than 5,000 EPA scientists last summer, 889 of them — about 60 percent of those who responded — said they had personally experienced political pressure geared to favor government policy rather than the facts.
Government officials publicly misrepresented their findings, the scientists said. Information was used selectively to justify less-stringent regulations. Scientists were pressured to alter or exclude information from scientific documents.
Nearly 500 scientists said they fear retaliation if they express concern about what’s happening within the agency.
Many also faced difficulty sharing their findings with other scientists or publishing them in scientific journals, let alone speaking out publicly to the news media.
The situation has deteriorated in recent years because the Bush administration — as part of its claim to “unitary executive” power that trumps that of Congress and the courts — has allowed the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to make environmental regulations. Time after time, scientists say, the OMB has ignored the data to favor private industry. Congress needs to ensure that the politicization of EPA doesn’t continue beyond January 2009. The first step is to re-assert its power to delegate work to federal agencies without White House interference.
Another safeguard: Include federal scientists in whistle-blower-protection legislation now in conference. If, in 1970, the government had pressured scientists to downplay the danger from unhealthy air quality, Congress might never have passed the Clean Air Act. The effect would have been catastrophic: the Union of Concerned Scientists says 200,000 more people would have died prematurely and millions more cases of respiratory and cardiovascular disease would have developed over the next two decades. Oh, to again have a president with the ethical compass of Richard Nixon!
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why we never hear the other side of the holocaust
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We never hear much about what the jews did to the Germans and the reason is this, I believe: The holocaust story is a simple comic book explanation of a supposed event that can be easily shown to the public without much knowledge of history needed. Just throw in a few photographs of dead people and a few figures like 6 million and the public eats it up with sympathy. But to understand what jews did to the Germans takes a lot of studying and time and indebth thought. It takes an understanding of history. It takes work to understand and what the jews did can’t easily be communicated in a comic book simplicity. So the jews have an advantage. of course their biggest advantage is their control of the MSM. Just a few thoughts to share. “
There are always two sides of a story. War causes suffering. Yes Germans suffered in the War with the bombings. England too was bombed and people suffered and died there too. What about the people in Poland and Russia who suffered?
It also can’t be denied that the Nazi’s killed Jews. The Holocaust did happen because we still having living witnesses. We have the proof that it happen. Hitler did evil and terrible things. That is the truth.
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Re: why we never hear the other side of the holocaust
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Two things are required to even concider the other side of the holocaust fable. First, you must possess the necessary critical reasoning skills required to envision another side of the story, the “why” of wht Jews were singled out as subversive enemies of the German people. Secondly, you must be able to think against the grain of mainstream opinion, thinking “outside the box”. Sadly, most couch potato Americans lack the reasoning skills to think outside the box, much less even concider controversial opinions which are “forbidden” by the thought police. We are dumbed down and programed to conform. Luckily, many people are becoming curious about why they are being forbidden to think certain thoughts, such as why Hitler, and the German people had such a low view of the Jews. Maybe it is only their childish nature to do, or say something which is forbidden to them, or maybe, just maybe, there is a general awakening from our delusional ways of thinking. “
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Re: why we never hear the other side of the holocaust
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Originally Posted by Nick Smith
We never hear much about what the jews did to the Germans and the reason is this, I believe: The holocaust story is a simple comic book explanation of a supposed event that can be easily shown to the public without much knowledge of history needed. Just throw in a few photographs of dead people and a few figures like 6 million and the public eats it up with sympathy. But to understand what jews did to the Germans takes a lot of studying and time and indebth thought. It takes an understanding of history. It takes work to understand and what the jews did can’t easily be communicated in a comic book simplicity. So the jews have an advantage. of course their biggest advantage is their control of the MSM. Just a few thoughts to share.
dude its quite easy understanding what really went on and unfolded.the jews did and have allways denighed christ THE SON OF GOD. OKAY THAT IS THE REASON WHY I DONT LIKE THEM. for years this hatred simmerd the great german statesman said that war would start by an argument somewhere in the balkan region it did there where also other reasons.one is the jews were inudating the great german land.the germans were getting mad.also the germans felt and really believed that they were defending there rightfull land one other thing to say as OTTO VON BISMARK once said and prophecied there is another war coming not one but two same way.SAME CONDITIONS.SAME BELIEVES THE SAME IN EXACTS TO TWO AND MOST OF ALL THIS WILL BE IN MODERN FUTURE TIMES.THAT IS RIGHT KNOW UNTHINKABLE but in the future it wont be WORLD WAR 3 and 4 THINK IT cant happen again as far as that jew quote never again id like to laugh in there face ha ha ha and ill laugh till war starts mike. ‘
This is the way I always feel when dealing with White Nationalists confused and wondering what did you just say? Maybe it is just me but I have a hard time following their reason. I think that is why I became the family rebel and was the first family Liberal.
I wish so much that you would wake up and see the truth. It is not always easy to accept the truth, but it is always for the best, because once you know the truth you can move on.
I have read the books and seen the movies that you encourage people to read. You are not feeding your minds with the truth but with lies.
I choose to believe the stories of the people who lived through nazi Germany and saw with their own eyes what happen to the Jewish people and anyone who dared to stand up to the evil.
I think one needs to keep an open mind and be willing to find the truth.
