http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/07/17/071711-news-nazi-twins-1-6
Change of Heart.
I am posting this article. Maybe they will see it as they are on the internet.
Lamb and lynx,
There is life after White Nationalism. You took the hardest step in walking away. Yes, there will be White Nationalist who will now call you sluts and race traitors for daring to leave White Nationalism. Some crazy nut might think he is doing the White race a service by hurting you. At the same time there will be those White Nationalists who will understand and will think that this is just some phase of life you are going through as teens and once you are married will have children of your own that you will come back to White Nationalism. You have taken the first step and walked a way and declared to White Nationalists and the world that you are no longer White Nationalists. That is a very brave step.
Those of us who were part of White Nationalism and left because we saw through the lies, support you and are here for you if ever you need anything. At first you may feel guilty for the songs you sang and the White Nationalist message you proclaimed. We all do. I haven’t met a single person who after they leave White Nationalism who doesn’t feel guilt. We think how could we have been so stupid. many of us are ashamed of the things we wrote and said. We can’t take those words back as they are public record, but we can move forward in life and become people who make a difference for good in this world instead of for bad. We can try and speak out so that others will not make the same mistake of believing the lies of White Nationalism as the truth.
There is no going back girls. Once you became public about leaving all that behind you, there is no going back. You will still have feelings of love for some White Nationalists. I do. Yet, I know that there is no going back and the friendship is over, as we now are on opposing sides. It doesn’t mean that I suport and embrace Progressive/Liberal thought either, as you will find lamb and Lynx that there is as much hate in the Liberal camp for those who are different then as in the White Nationalist camp. These very same people who hated you enough to want to kill you, when you were White Nationalist are going to use you. I hate to say it, but you can’t trust them anymore then you can trust White Nationalists. Both camps use people. You are alone, except for the true friends you have in life, you love you as you are regardless of what camp you are in. If you have friends, family, and love in your life you will be ok. If on the other hand, you are like someone we know who had given up everything for her White Nationalist husband, so that when that ended she didn’t have anything else to fill her life and she went off the deep end. For a long time we will be on our own as we have to prove ourselves to others that we have really left White Nationalism behind us. You have each other to talk to and to share your feelings with. Be there for each other and don’t let anyone (Progressive or White Nationalist) feel like you are evil just because you don’t agree with them. Hate is hate. Two wrongs never make a right. White Nationalist Hate is wrong, and so is Progressive/Liberal hate is wrong.
Like many of us when we first leave, we go to the Progressive/Liberal Camp, as we think they are different then White Nationalists. Yet, many of us find that the Progressives have just as much hate in their hears if not more then White Nationalists. So we reject their Progressive message as we reject the White Nationalist message. Both messages twist the truth to fit their view of the world.
I don’t know what your faith is, but faith in God is very important. For me, it was going back home to the Catholic faith. For you it might be another spiritual path. Having faith in God brings you the strength you need to walk this difficult path before you. It brings you wisdom to know who you can trust and who you can’t trust. God is love and he will show you what faith he wants you to embrace.
I wish you happiness in this life. There is life after White Nationalism and you will heal.
God bless you both
Chrisy
It is going to be another hot day in the AZ desert. Need to get going as I want to cook some bacon and eggs before doing the errands my mom needs.
I am a White Nationalist and have nothing against Lamb and Lynx. It’s not like White Nationalism is a cult. I would like to believe that no White Nationalist would ever do those horrible things you said. I wish Lamb and Lynx well, whatever they decide to do, even if they are never White Nationalists again. I have enjoyed their music very much and will continue to do so. Thanks Lamb and Lynx. Best of luck.
Ryan,
Thank you for your comment, you are welcome to post here if you want. There is another White Nationalist name Garfield, who also posts here. Even though he is a White Nationalist and I a Catholic who is Conservative we have become online friends.
there are only a few rules, that we talk to each other and not at each other, and that we treat each other with respect. You are off to a good start and I applaud you for that.
Ryan, I am speaking from my experience within White Nationalism. Also from knowing what other people who were involved in White Nationalism were into. The twins have very good reason for thinking that White Nationalist men are “creepers”. KS who was one of the leaders of the NA posted the twins pictures on child porn. That is a true story. David Lane who was in prison for life, said the twins were his dream girls, and implied it in a sexy way. Is it any wonder they think that White Nationalist men are “creepers”? Dirty old men drooling over little girls. It does happen believe me.
Not all White Nationalist men are creepers, I met a few good ones who I still have the love of a sister toward a brother, and others who I love as good friends. When I needed help they were always there for me and they never made me feel uneasy with them trying to make sexual moves toward me, when they knew I am waiting for the right man who loves me and wants to marry me. I try to follow the teachings of the Catholic church. They had really good hearts, though we disagree about the Jewish issue. A few of them I disagree with their trying to work together with the Islamist terrorists in their common goal to destroy Israel. So we are on opposite sides.
Yet, I have met the creepers who make up a good part of the White Nationalism. The ones like my ex Jeff, who is a CI/WN Pastor who believes that girls can be given in marraige at age 12 and that they will no say in who the man is that she is given to in marriage. Yet, they aren’t told that the marriage cermony is not legal and that if they leave God will strike them dead or with caner. think of the FLDS, that church was like the one Jeff was leader of. Then you have the ones who are White Nationalist KKK (Ron Edwards group) who at their annual event chain rape two teen girls over and over and over again. My best friend in WN had a teen daughter and she thought that could be her daughter someday, and it opened her eyes to the creepers in White Nationalism and she began to see the truth and has left White Nationalism now. She won’t be coming back.
I am sorry that the bad apples who are creepers, chase young woman and woman away.
I hope nothing happens to these girls and they are able to move on and do their own thing without anyone bothering them. It sounds like their mother was using them as a meal ticket, or to live vicariously through them; that they were just repeating what their mother told them and now that they’ve grown up and have minds of their own, they’ll probably be thought of as worthless by White Nationalists. Judging from just being at a certain forum for a short while, I’ve seen how cruel White Nationalists can be with each other. And toward other white people, there will be news stories about a woman getting raped and killed by a black, they’ll somehow manufacture some reason as to why she was a mudshark that deserved it.
Creepers? Yes, some of them get pretty creepy when the subject of polygamy comes up. What is the story on this KKK group that chain raped teen girls?
Going by what I’ve seen, I’m starting to have my doubts as to whether this White Nationalist thing is for me. If they act that way on the Internet, why would I want to be around them in person?
Helfyre,
Thank you for your comment. Glad you are here. It sounds like your eyes are beginning to open up and you are seeing the truth. I know from the time my eyes were opened, that that finaly year I was posting quotes from my childhood hero and environmental stories. I thought I could still be and keep my White Nationalist friends who I still loved and not be a White Nationalist. Only to find, that I couldn’t, as we were never going to agree on Israel and Jews. I am pro Israel and Pro Jewish and Catholic/Christian. The White Nationalists I knew in real life, are anti Israel and work for the destruction of Israel so therefore some of them think it is ok to work with Islamists toward their common goals. The love is still there for some of the people as once I love someone as a friend, I love them forever, as I love unconditonally. Yet, we are on opposite sides because of our differences on political views.
Your points about the twins are very valid. I remember meeting them at Euro 2005 in New Oreleans. They didn’t seem happy or looked like they wanted to be there. As I understand it, it wasn’t April’s idea for the twins to start a White Nationalist band, but William Pierce who was head of the NA at the time. He knew that young men would be drawn in by pretty girls. He was right, as I believe they brought many young men into White Nationalism. April loves her girls, but she is also a White Nationalist woman, who over the years has given a lot ot the Cause. The girls on the other hand, from a very early age were exposed to that hate that Progressives spewed toward them as little girls. I know one time April showed one of the threats by Progressives that talked about drinking wine out of the baby, who was 6 months at the time, out of her skull. The twins they were going to rape repeated then kill them. They were little girls and Progressive adults sent them death threats of the most vulgar nature. Don’t ever let anyone tell you that Progressives don’t hate others that are different, because they do.
What child doesn’t want to be able to have friends? Parents of other kids wouldn’t let their kids play with them. They wanted a normal life. They wanted to go to school and be like all the other girls their age. In many ways, April reminds me of my mom. We are like water/oil, we don’t mix very well when it come to politics. I love my mom and my mom loves me, but we don’t agree. It could be that as they are growing up and finding out what they believe that they will turn away from White Nationalist or it could be they are angry with the White Nationalist “creepers”. There are a lot of them. Dirty old men who drool and make sexual comments about them when they were still little girls. It could be they got turned off when Kevin Strom posted their pictures on child porn and jacked off. There is a lot of sexual pervison in White Nationalism by leaders who the rank and file make excuses for and we as women/girls are to just ignore their perversions, and follow them anyway, because they tell us they are men of honor who fight for the 14 words.
Ron Edwards KKK group, who I don’t believe he is head of anymore, is bad news. I know the stories I have heard from people who live in KY. I also know what my good friend, in White Nationalism and in the NA said. She was at their Nordic fest in 2005 which happen after Euro. I wasn’t there, but she was and she told me about the 2 girls in seperate tents who were gang raped and none of the men there stopped the rape. They went into the tents one after another for hours. These girls were teens. Ron’s group, is known for having sex with underage girls in KY. One story was of one of Ron’s group who was married, had sex with an underage girl and when the girls mother found out, she went to the police and reported it. The KKK group went to the mother’s trailer and shot the place out with guns. She dropped all the charges. This was told me by someone who once was in this KKK group. There is no reason for my friend to lie to me about the rapes. It opened her eyes, as she has 3 daugthers and she could only see that could be her daughter someday. Like many of us, once her eyes started to open, she finally came to the place where she left.
White Nationalists are smart, they go after the abused, lonely, hurt, and those who are looking for a family. They befriend you and slowly bring you into White Nationalism..
I hope you will comment here, as you are welcome to post here your thoughts.
Chrisy