I am starting this thread here on my blog for people from Stormfront who would like to discuss my post I made over there so as to not derail another thread and I get a demerit for. Thank you for your understanding and coming here to talk to me. As Stormfront has rules I have a few simple rules here on my blog. There will be no personal attacks of calling me a stupid slut etc. You will talk to me and not at me. You will treat me with respect and I will treat you with respect. If you revert to calling me names I will not approve your comment and that will be the end of discussion. Here at this blog we agree to disagree so as to end the discussion in a positive note. There are issues that we will not agree with and to continue discussing those issues is a waste of time for that moment.
Here is my post on SF and another post in case the person comes here to continue this discussion.
| Chrisy |
Re: Critiquing and opinions needed!
“As this crisis continues to progress, it has become increasingly apparent that only White Nationalism can save us now.” (from the essay) I will try this again. I am sorry that my last attempt to help you in your writing came across as rude and that the thread got derailed. That was not my intent. I truly wanted to help you, but I failed. I am sorry. The point I was trying to make was that people today of all political views tend to generalize to much. I am guilty of this as well. That we need to start saying why something is true. Why is it that White Nationalism is the only path that can save us? People are hurting in this country and they need to know what exactly White Nationalism will do to solve the problems. What is their plan to bring jobs and improve the economy? What is their plan to secure the border? People are sick of our leaders and political parties generalizing. I hope this helps in your writing. I think it is wonderful that you are writing an essay and are brave enough to ask for our thoughts. Good luck and God bless your efforts. Chrisy |
| Gen. De la Rey |
Re: Critiquing and opinions needed!
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The current status quo of the US government has done little in 60 years to save the white man. Perhaps a party dedicated to the future of white US citizens can offer hope without an agenda of socialism and jewery. Quote:
I’m not a US citizen but I’ll take a stab at this too, more jobs will be created once they deport all the border jumpers, illegal and political aliens who are parasites to the US social system. An economy without jews and the burden of funding the illegal state of Israel will be vast. Securing the border is simple. Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again. |
Why is it that White Nationalism is the only path that can save us? (I said)
The current status quo of the US government has done little in 60 years to save the white man. Perhaps a party dedicated to the future of white US citizens can offer hope without an agenda of socialism and jewery.” (SF Poster said)
I don’t feel you answer is telling me WHY White Nationalism is the answer that Americans should embrace. It is more generalizing but not listing what solutions that White Nationalists will bring to the table if they are given seats of power. It is more of the same ole generalizing that WE THE PEOPLE GET FROM POLITICAL PARTIES AND THEIR CANDIDATES. Obama won not by telling us what he would do but he came up with a good slogan and got away with not having to bring substance to the table. Look what a disaster he has turned out to be. Yet, I wonder if the American people have learned their lesson that we need to make our candidates give us substance and refuse to accept slogans and generalization from our candidates.
While it is true that our government has failed the Americian people by their greed and corruption why should we just believe a White Nationalist party is going to solve our problems we are facing. So what if they are pro white if they are going to continue the same ole same ole of not really telling the people what they are doing or planning so that the voters can vote from knowledge.
I have to go now so I will address you more later.
Chrisy
I can finish answering your questions general. I hope you will come here and discuss this with me here as I really don’t want to disrail another thread because White Nationalists want to talk to me about what I post.
“People are hurting in this country and they need to know what exactly White Nationalism will do to solve the problems. What is their plan to bring jobs and improve the economy? What is their plan to secure the border? People are sick of our leaders and political parties generalizing. ” (I said)
I’m not a US citizen but I’ll take a stab at this too, more jobs will be created once they deport all the border jumpers, illegal and political aliens who are parasites to the US social system. An economy without jews and the burden of funding the illegal state of Israel will be vast. Securing the border is simple. Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again. (General said)
I don’t know if Americans are ready for your suggestions to become state policy. Americans tend to be very generous people who want to help others achieve a better life. A lot of us have ancestors who came here in the late 1800′s and early 1900′s through Ellis Island, New York. They came here from all different parts of Europe and the rest of the world for a better life. They worked hard like my Grandfather in Boston and saved their money so they could send their children to good schools. My dad went to prep school in MA and then on to Tuffs. They wanted their children to do better then they did.
While they remained true to their homeland and many of us grew up knowing the culture we came from. My dad and I would go to the Scottish/Celitc Games. I still love the games. Others would meet with their own ethnic groups, but they were all Americans who loved this country and many became American citizens. America has always been accepting of the legal immigrant.
The problem lies with the illegal immigrant who refuses to obey the Law and come here legally. We must secure our Southern Border.
Many of the Illegals don’t want to become Americans but want to stay Mexican. Their loyality is to Mexico and not the United States. I can’t really condemn them as I am loyal to the British Government and trust them at this point in my life much more then the United States government who I KNOW LIES TO US. AMERICANS CAN’T TRUST ONE WORD THAT OUR GOVERNMENT TELLS US. Our government doesn’t really care of the effect their policy of doing NOTHING is having on the quality of life that Americans live.
We have illegals taking our jobs that Americans should have the first chance to do. For those of us who don’t have a 4 year college degree or masters degree and have to do lowing paying jobs; we have no jobs that we can work because the illegal is doing them for a lot less money then what we in America can live on.
I do think if they did enforce the LAWS already on the books and send those who break the LAW and come here ILLEGALLY and deport back to Mexico or where they come from that would give American citizens and Legal Immigrants jobs.
I know Mexican families at my church who feel that the LAWS have to be ENFORCED. They came here legally and many become American citizens. My good friend Nanette that I grew up with and was confirmed with many years ago was 1/2 Mexican. Her father came here and made a nice life for his family. Nanette knew her Mexican side as well as her Austrian side as her mother was from Austria. Nanette was 100% American and I don’t think ever learn Spanish.
All people are human beings and should be treated with respect. I don’t like the policy or even WANT to think that the United States would just start shooting people down at the border. That thought gives me shivers.
I believe that we can secure our border and start enforcing our Laws without shooting down people with machine guns.
Chrisy58, I hope the surgery removed all the cancer cells and you are recovering well.
you wrote on ringoffireradio.com “This Week on Ring of Fire” thread for Nov 13, 2010 program:
“I have a question that I am working on. I am posting on SF under the anti section. Talking to all people about politics is one of my joys in life. Anyway, WN like to claim that the JEWS control all the media in this country. I told them that I believe it is a corporate and state controlled media. When I told them that the lists they provide when researched to add up to the Jews controlling all the media. They want me to prove it. So I am going to take their list and research the companies to prove to them that they are WRONG. Debate and Discussion between enemies and people of different political views is good and educational. This self taught girl likes to learn new things. Anyway we shall see who owns and controls the media.”
WN show their prejudice and bigotry against Jews by saying Jews control the media. WN show their ignorance with the lists they provide of Jews in supervisory positions in news and entertainment media businesses.
You are right, Chrisy58, the media is corporate controlled to not report anything that will lose advertisers, or in NPR/PBS case, donors. Also not report anything that will be used by a large enough group of viewers/listeners to make the news or entertainment media business entity known more for controversy around the business than for content of the business’ reporting. Advertisers and donors are repelled by controversy surrounding where the donation or ad is publicly given because it could suppress market share for the product or service that even public media donors worry about so they have the discretionary money to donate.
What I, as a Jew, interpret the ‘Jews control the media’ prejudiced statements to mean, is a crude, unnuanced, ignorant perception of the reality that the news and entertainment media are intimidated by groups (of mostly if not all Jews) like camera.org, ‘honest’reporting.com, freemiddleeast.com, memri.org, seconddraft.org, The Israel Project and many others affiliated with the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations (President’s Conference) who intimidate news businesses to not report much of anything that puts Israel’s rightist political parties in a negative light. Either WN should be quiet or educate themselves so that they don’t make such broad general statements that are usually ignorant or bigoted. Start learning the nuances of strong Jewish influence on the news media that WN horribly distort by watching the film “Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land” that may be available for viewing on google video. One director of the film were interviewed by a substitute for Ron Reagan, Bill Dwight, on his old AAR show Jan 2, 2009. Also try viewing the web site ifamericansknew.org or the Israel Lobby Watch section of Electronicintifada.com or the blog muzzlewatch.com.
Jon,
Thank you for coming here to post your comment. I hope you will stay around and answer some of the questions that I am sure will be asked of you. I hope you had a very Happy Thanksgiving and will have a very happy Hanukkah.
I will post a reply to you on Ring of Fire too so you can read it. As I want you to know that I did read your comment and approved it on my blog. Thank you for posting your comment as it makes me feel like I am not wasting my time posting on Ring of Fire. As of late I feel like instead of educating me on the issues of importance that I need to know as an American so I can base my decisions on knowledge that all they do is attack and bash Republicans. I am a Republican but I also fight for the environment that I agree with Progressives. Ring of Fire tends to make it sound like ALL Republicans are enemies of the environment which is not true as I belong to one of the leading groups that fight for the protection of the environment. They tend to generalize to much. I know White Nationalists accuse of generalizing but I don’t really as I know to use the word SOME before the word White Nationalists and not just say WHITE NATIONALISTS TO IMPLY ALL WHITE NATIONALISTS DO LIKE RING OF FIRE DOES in refering to Republicans. It is no some before the word or being specific as to which Republican is doing the wrong. To them it is ALL REPUBLICANS.
So far I have found that the list they provided was out of date. The site they sent me to to prove their claim is also out of date as they had Bernie Sanders listed as a Congressman and he hasn’t been a Congressman for years, but is a U.S. Senator. Also the site was not clear on who founded the site. There was nothing to make me believe it was a real Jewish site of Jews praising the accomplishments of people who share their religion. If it was really a Jewish run site, it wouldn’t be out of date on the accomplishments of the people listed there. I don’t know how long I will be posting on SF as I find that a FEW(notice I said the word FEW) tend to just personally attack me. I keep on hoping that we can have adult conversation on the issues without the personal attacks and name calling.
I have asked them to prove to me they are right. As I ask Progressives to prove to me they are right. I don’t know who is telling the truth at this point in time. Both seem to spew HATE toward OTHERS which is a BIG TURNOFF. LOVE IS FROM GOD SO HATE IS FROM THE EVIL ONE. I OPPOSE ALL HATE EVEN PROGRESSIVE HATE AS I OPPOSE WHITE NATIONALIST HATE TOWARD JEWS.
Jon, we both believe in the same God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. I believe in Jesus. I like to watch Glenn Beck and he has a rabbi on there I really like to listen to. I believe Jews are good people. My dad knew Jewish people that he worked with and he liked and respected. I am sad to say that for many years I forgot that but I have remembered and I feel been snatched from the pit of HELL. I believe part of the problem is that what has been blamed on Jews was those who really are behind the New World Order blamed the Jewish people so that the focus would be on the Jews and not them. People read the books and go to the site and the information is there that makes it seem like Jews hate non Jews. People believe that. Yet, they aren’t really checking out the source of the material they believe.
Jon, you have a wonderful religion with a lot of wonderful tradition. We Catholics have a lot of wonderful traditions too. The one thing I really remember about one Jewish service that was open to the public in Oct. I think it was the feast of tents. I enjoyed the music and dancing and the happiness in worshiping God. The readings in the Torah were like the readings in our Old Testament. We share a common God.
You have to remember Jon that their HATE blinds them. HATE BLINDS EVERYONE WHO IS LIVING BY HATE IN THEIR HEARTS. IT BLINDS WHITE NATIONALISTS AND IT BLINDS PROGRESSIVES TOO. Not all White Nationalists believe in the enemy of my enemy is my friend concept and believe in working together with radical Muslims to destroy Israel and Jews off the face of the earth. Though there are those who do. There is one who posts on this blog, you might want to talk to you. I hope that you would be willing to have a discussion with him if he would treat you with respect as a human being as I would ask you to treat Garfield with respect as a human being too.
One of the misconeptions that Progressives and Non White Nationalists have is that all White Nationalists are HATERS and EVIL RACISTS. You have people who are included in the term White Nationalists who are just White Pride people. People like me who are proud of ancestors as I hope every single human being is proud of their ethnic group and ancestors. White Pride should not be denounced as evil racism when the world accepts Black Pride as an American right. Hispanics should be Proud too. Asians should be proud too. Everyone should show pride in their ethnic group and want to see that ethnic group do better with each generation. Yet, today there is one race that is denied the right to have PRIDE IN OUR RACE WITHOUT BEING CALLED EVIL RACISTS AND THAT IS THE WHITE RACE. Reverse Racism does exist. White Pride is the first step on the road to White Nationalism. They are told that if you do have pride in your ancestors and their accomplishments and your ethnic group that you are a White Nationalist. They are told that if you do not join White Nationalism you are anti white and are an enemy of your race and are working to destroy the White race off the face of the earth. They are told that to be anti White Nationalism is to be anti white. They push people into accepting that they must join White Nationalism or they hate their own race which is hating your self.
Jon, it has been my experience that White Nationalists see Jews behind every tree as Progressives see an evil racist behind every tree. Being called a racist because you are a pro life Catholic who tries to live by the teachings of the Catholic church which doesn’t approve of homosexual marriage is pushing people into thinking that they must join with others who share traditonal values. We are not wack jobs, religious nuts, are evil racists. We believe that we MUST OBEY GOD FIRST OVER MEN. Some of the greatest Saints of the OT like DAVID believed in following God over man. Yet, because we put our faith first we are now hated and can be branded a terrorist group for daring to pray our roseries in front of an abortion clinic for the unborn child. We believe life should be honored from conception to death. I oppose the death penality because I believe the STATE doesn’t have the right to kill people. Only God has the right to take a life.
I support Israel and pray for Israel everynight when I pray my prayers. I pray that God will forgive her of any sin she has committed and that God will keep Israel safe and deliver her from any evil intent of those who would want to destroy her. I don’t see Israel or Jews as the enemy of White people like I was brainwashed to believe by Jeff.
Jon, I am sorry that because of my anger at God and the Catholic Church that I allowed myself to be deceived into thinking bad things about Jews. I had allowed myself to forget the nice Jewish friends my father knew when he was alive. I was a good parrot and I am very sorry for any words of HATE I spoke during those years. I don’t know what woke me up from the trance I was under but something did and I was able to find my way back home to Jesus and the Catholic Church. Each year I am healing more and more from the PTSD and the abuse I have suffered over the years. I do believe that God is working on me and that he has a plan for my life. I can’t take back the things I did or said when I was involved in White Nationalism but I can move forward and tell the truth and stand and fight with anyone who would want to hurt Israel or Jews. Why is the world now hating Jews and Catholics. Islamic leaders attack our Pope and they have condoned the murder of Catholics while celebrating mass. It seems like anyone who believes in the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob is now hated in the world because they hate our moral courage to stand and obey God over man. We Jews and Christians must stand strong and help each other during the coming years when I think the Jewish/Catholic hate is only going to get worst. I hope you are a strong Jewish man. Are you a practicing Jew?
Sorry for being so long. Anyway, I would love to talk to you more as you can talk to me as a Jewish man.
Best Wishes
Chrisy