This Makes Me Really Sad

This makes me really sad

I was doing my morning trolling of WN sites and I came across a thread that was bragging about the hate speech that came out of their children’s mouths.  Children aren’t born hating others but taught to hate others.  I can’t speak for anyone else but that makes me very sad.

Hate is an emotion that destroys one.  I know that WN and Racialists justify their hate by saying it is healthy to hate others who are a threat to you.  They would say it is for their survival to hate Blacks, Jews, Liberals, Catholics, Mexicans, etc.  That they do what they do for love of race.  They actually believe in their heart of hearts that they do what they do for love of race.  They truly believe that they are fighting for the survival of White children by teaching their children to hate those who are different than them.

I love children and it makes me sad to see children taught to hate others.  It makes me sad that these children are being brainwashed to believe that just because they were born White that they are better than a child who was born another race.  It makes me sad to see some of these children who are born into White Nationalist/Racialist homes being taught that Catholics are not real Christians.  It breaks my heart that some of these children are being taught to hate Jewish people and to cheer and hope for their destruction.  It makes me sad that these little children are being taught that the Klan, Hitler, and people like Robert Matthews are heroes and to want to follow in their footsteps.  It makes me sad to see little girls being raised to think their only value as a women is how many White babies she has, to accept that a man has a right to hit her if she disobeys him in anyway or burns dinner.  To see the lack of respect and encouragement are given who want to get a good education.  Not all White Nationalist men are like this but enough are.  

I would like to end with this quote:

” Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society.  Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or or great intelligence.  Yet it is the one essential, vital quality of those who seek to change the world which yields most painfully to change.”

There are a lot of people involved in White Nationalism who know it is a fraud and a lie; yet they continue to act as those they still believe in the Cause.  They continue to act as those White Nationalism is a rightous cause and they refuse to stand up for what they know to be the truth.  Do they lack the moral courage to say I can no longer believe this lie and walk away?  Do they stay because they don’t want to loose their friends? Do they stay because they don’t want to make waves by leaving and speaking out so as to warn others to not fall for the lies?

It is not easy to leave, but many times we must take the hard road in life.  It is not easy to know that people who you love will no longer consider you a friend but a foe.  It is not easy leaving the only world you know and move foward into the unknown.  Yet, in the long run we will find that it is the best choice.  There comes a day when we start living in the real world again that we realize that we made the right decision in leaving and are actually in a much better place than if we had stayed.

As women I hope that we would find a way change our lives and our children’s life for the better.  Is it making their lives better to be taught the lies that make up so much of White Nationalism?  Is it making their lives better to teach them National Socialism and Hitler was a great and glorious hero of the White Race?  Is it making their lives better to dress them up in klan robes and teaching them that a cross lighting is a wonderful and blessed thing?

White Nationalists and National Socialists say they do what they do for the future of their children, but I have to ask myself are they really making a brighter future for their children?

I think the answer is no, they are not making a better future for th eir children but are in fact making it harder for their children by isolating them in this make believe world that doesn’t exist except in their own little minds.  The real world is not anything like they are teaching the children to believe and someday when they go out into it they are not prepared to face it or deal with the reality.

We have real problems that we are facing in the world that is going to take all of us working together as one to solve.  Yet, these children are being brainwashed to hate children of other races who they are going to have to work along side with if we are going to solve the real problem of climate change.  Climate change is a real threat and not a make believe threat that White Nationalist/Racialists teach their children.  Their plan is to have lots of White babies and they believe it will solve their make believe threat of the White race dying out.  They can’t see that climate change effects the White race and all of us.  The world doesn’t meed more children being born as we are going to have to deal with all the starving people that the world can’t support.  What kind of world are they bringing all these White children into?  A world where many times the environment is so polluted that it is toxic.   A world where the people that are here are going to be fighting over the resources to live because fresh water is going be harder and harder to fin.

I see hate on all sides.  All hate is wrong and is a very destructive emotion.  Those of us who are Liberal need to have the moral courage to speak out when we see hate being spoken about others who are differnt than us or who hold a different political thought.  We need to remember that we are not all robots and that every American has the right to look at all the sides and make up his own mind on the issues and just because he may come to a different conclusion doesn’t mean he is a racist.  We are throwing that word around to easily these days.

If we as Liberals really value free speech than we must respect the right of someone else who has another political view the right and freedom to speak and share his thoughts on the issues.  Just because someone is a Conservative doesn’t mean they are evil people who are racist.

Just because someone is a Liberal doesn’t mean they are a communist out to destroy America.  The hate directed from both sides is not productive and is not going to help solve the problems that we are facing.  We need to find a way to bring us together as a nation and not continue to hate the other who might share a different vision of America.  

 Some of the hate that is directed toward the President is really terrible and that too makes me sad.  Some of the hate directed toward Christians who believe in the teachings of the church make me sad as well.    We need to find a way to move past the hate and try to love each other as Americans better.  We need to put a little more love in our heart towards each other.  We are not all going to agree but we need to find a way to accept each other and try and understand each other better and really work together to make this country better for the children that everyone says they love and are fighting for.

Anyway, these are just some of my thoughts.

Christine Cosser

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21 Comments »

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    Garfield Says:

    Hmmm………

    I must profess I find it hard to agree with anything you have said. In my books a true believer in WN will never doubt his ideology otherwise I would liken them to ‘sunday’ christians, those who dust off their bibles on sunday and go to church and on monday are back in the bar and enjoying life. Hardly an example but I’m assume it will suffice. If there are WN who doubt there beliefs then they should leave the movement, we only want those people dedicated to the promotion of WN. You wrong to assume that all WN hate other races, excluding the jews of coarse. I fact I would defend the rights of black to practice black pride even though I am branded a racist for wanting to live white pride. Quite ironic I would say, considering that prominent black consciousness figures are revered by blacks yet we may not do the same without incurring the wrath of racism.

    Being proud of ones race is hardly a lie, agreed that some groups embrace NS, doesn’t mean we are all like that. Equally I could equate many neo-liberals to your cause and label you accordingly or from a stereotype religious context, but I don’t.

    As to your references to Obama I find your silence to his winning the peace prize quite telling. I would have thought that a man who is waging war in two countries, funding the genocide of palestians and supporting the illegal state of apartheid israel to be classified as a warmonger rather than a peace maker! If I was a godly man I would be praying for the American people to survive this presidency whose campaign was based on lies,innuendo and forgotten promises.

    Yes we can he said, indeed yes we can change, only to find out once elected that the ZOG was stronger or his ignorance to it, hence his continued support of the illegal zionist state.

    Your liberal theory of loving all and working for the betterment of all is flawed from the onset. We are not all equal politically, socially or financially, nothing to do with race, this is pure classism. I am interested in promoting the lives of my children and that of my race, no compromises no apology.

    If I don’t protect my racial identity, culture norms and values we WN would be no different from our misguided, multicultural liberalised white people who gladly give up their identity to be accepted in a ‘global’ village of diversity. Not me I chose the narrow path rather than the popularised one.

    Just a few of my thoughts chrisy.

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    chrisy58 Says:

    Garfield,

    I knew you wouldn’t agree with me as I don’t agree with you. I think the day you posted that you agree with my Liberal views I would faint from disbelief, lol.

    I know that you WN think that you do out of love for your race and the future of White children, but the truth is that it is not out of love but hate of others who are different than you.

    I was talking to a NS young woman who said that when she has children she only wants boys because girls are not valued as much as boys. That to me is wrong. To place more value on boys than girls is wrong. To make a young woman feel like she is damaged goods because she can’t have children of her own is WRONG!! To raise girls to accept that it is ok for a man to hit them is WRONG!!! Don’t tell me I don’t know what I am talking about because I lived it. Young women are still living it. Not all WN men treat their women like property but plenty do. Do you personally when you see a WN man hold those views stand up to him and tell him he is wrong or do you keep silent? Do you tell the woman that it is her fault and that she deserved the punishment given to her? Until you start policing your own ranks this attitude of girls and women being of less value than boys and men will continue.

    The reason why I didn’t say anything about President Obama’s peace prize is that I was thinking about it. To be honest I think he should have given it back and said that I am just beginning my term and later on when I have had time to accomplish more than I would be happy to accept it. I think they gave it to him not based on his accomplishments but based on the promise and hope that he would accomplish something. I am not putting him down, but I just think I personally would have had more respect for him if he had said Thank you, but I am not accomplished and brought into reality my goals yet.

    I hate to see this honor being awarded on only promise and not accomplishment.

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    Garfield Says:

    As you know I am a member of SF and yes I speak out against the marginalization of women, I do not preach my WN views to my children either although I admit I do steer them in some subtle ways. My kids go to a multi racial school and I do not teach them of hatred but rather of differences and cultures that cannot co-exist, but that one culture will siblimate the other till nothing is left. My child asked me why cows and sheep don’t mate and have young, this was my oppertunity without useing race as an example that each specie sticks to its own kind and he understood that. By the way Chrisy have you ever wondered why it is that bone marrow cannot be transplanted across different races, black marrow to a white donor doesn’t match and visa versa, strange, I could turn that into a natural selection ideology but then again it speaks for itself.

    True WN should love and honour their women and children, without them we are a dying race.

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    chrisy58 Says:

    Garfield,

    You are one of the good guys in White Nationalism. I have met a few good guys and to be honest I met them through SF. We may no longer be friends but I know that they have a good heart. I think you might even have a good heart, lol.

    I even think you truly believe in your White Nationalist Cause. You believe in your heart that what you are fighting for is for the future of your children. You may honor your wife and value your daughter as much as your son. The problem is that to many do not.

    Until you weed out and seperate yourselves from this idea of unity and accepting everyone who says they are fighting for the 14 words, but who treats women and girls as property and slaves rather than human beings, who think it is ok to hit women and girls, who view women’s only worth as being a womb, who refuse to educate girls because her only function is housework and having babies, and think the man has to have control over every aspect of her life; then you White Nationalism will continue to be judged as anti-women. Sorry, but that is just the way it is.

    Until the good ones start speaking up and making those who give your Cause a bad name by their attitudes and treatment of women and girls than you are not changing your Cause for the better.

    You are talking about cows vs sheep. You are talking about two different spieces. Yet Blacks are still human beings as Whites are human beings. An Irish person marrying a Spanish person is not someone who is mating outside their spieces. We have differences between the different races and ethnic groups, but we are still all human beings.

    You talk about the bone marrow, but some ethnic groups develop a disease while other ethnic groups don’t develop that disease as much.

    I have a nephew in Hawaii who is seeing an Asian girl. I don’t have a problem with it. She is the one who he loves and she loves him. As long as she treats him right than I don’t feel like it is wrong. They are both of the same spieces. They are both American and they love each other.

    Does anyone have the right to tell him he is wrong because he fell in love with a girl from another ethnic group and race?

    It is not like he is a man and he wants to date a dog. Even though both of them would be mammals that would be mating outside the spieces. I love dogs and dogs are truly the best friend of men, but humans don’t mate with dogs. A human is going to mate with a human and a dog is going to mate with another dog. The dog could be a collie mating with a Lab. That puupy would be mixed but sill a dog. A white mating with an Asian is still going to have a child even if that child is mixed race.

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    Garfield Says:

    “I know that you WN think that you do out of love for your race and the future of White children, but the truth is that it is not out of love but hate of others who are different than you.”

    Actually Chrisy I really do love my race and I choose to promote it out of my love for it and its ideals not form a sense of hate for others.

    There is little difference between black and white nationalism.

    You continually say I hate others yet I have never stated that myself, I find that an affront to what I believe.

    Should you wish try a religious topic of debate I might be able to muster some hateful sentiment, but alas that is pointless and counter productive to rational discussion. I am Atheist, White Nationalist, Unapologetic and proud.

    P.S. I agree Obama should have handed it back, I guess he saw the cheque that comes with it though.

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    chrisy58 Says:

    You are just one White Nationalist Garfield. How many times I have seen Liberals being generalized on White Nationalist site and Right Wing sites and media?

    I am not talking about you personally but White Nationalism in general like you White Nationalists talk about Liberals in general on your sites. I have been very tasteful compared to what I have seen on your WN sites.

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    chrisy58 Says:

    Oh, I forgot to add I think Black Nationalism is just as bad as White Nationalism. I think all Nationalism based on race is bad. The reason I focus on White Nationalism is because that is where my knowledge is.

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    Garfield Says:

    Oh, I forgot to add I think Black Nationalism is just as bad as White Nationalism. I think all Nationalism based on race is bad. The reason I focus on White Nationalism is because that is where my knowledge is.
    Comment by chrisy58 October 15, 2009 @ 7:15 pm

    So you condemn the jews and there state of nationalism too?

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    chrisy58 Says:

    Yes, I think Israel is wrong in their treatment of the people in Gaza strip and the West bank.

    Many Liberals and Progressives speak out against the way Israel has violated the rights of the people there. President Jimmy Carter who is considered a Liberal Democrat has speaken out. He got a lot of heat for speaking his thoughts.

    One thing about Jimmy Carter is that I believe he is a good Christian man at heart and that his deep faith guides his actions. I am a Catholic and he may be a Baptist but I think that we both believe in the social gospels of Jesus Christ and believe that fighting for human rights is very much part of our Christian faith.

    Yet, I seperate the state of Israel from all Jewish people on the face of the earth. Many White Nationalists, National Socialists, Christian Identity, Racialists do not. They tend to blame all Jews. I have even seen them cheer and approve of the President of Iran and his words and thoughts about the Jewish people. I even saw some post that they hope that Iran bombs.

    In order for there to be lasting peace both sides have got to start looking at each other as human beings who both love their children and want a future for them. They want their children to be able to grow up not in a war zone but in a safe place where they can develop and grow into adults who will make a difference for good in this life. Muslim or Jew they all love their children.

    The hate of others has got to stop. The hate between Muslim and Jew has to stop. The hate between White and Black has got to stop. The hate between Catholic and Protestant has got to stop. Until we can accept that we need to put aside our differences and find a way to work together to solve the real problems that mankind is facing like Climate Change than we will never succeed in overcoming the struggles that need to be met to stop the climatic disaster that is going to effect all human beings on the face of the earth. This disaster coming down the Pike is bigger than a racial struggle; but it is a human kind struggle for survival.

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    Garfield Says:

    That what I love about you liberals Chrisy, your blind idealism, your belief in the goodness of your fellow man. Your dream of a Utopian world where no sickness or greed will prevail and we can all smell the daisies on our way to work each day.

    The sad reality is that we choose our paths in life based on the hands dealt, those who are oppressed must rise up and slay their oppressors.
    Whether biblical or not no one nation can assume to god in the middle east, we must crush them, not sit down and discuss peace on biased sanctioned terms. They need to be eradicated and never again be allowed to persecute the oppressed. I am not a great fan of Hilter but sometimes I wonder whether he actually had a point in reviling the jews.

    Your references to religion in politics is a real sword in my flesh, ideology and religion don’t go hand in hand. Religion should be left in the church, not used as an counter balance to justify world ills or the sanctioning thereof.

    Iran won’t bomb israel, not just yet, it would serve no purpose nor do they yet have the nuclear capacity. Personally I would use……..(I’m not going there).

    Enough said.

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    chrisy58 Says:

    That is your choice to reject the Christian faith. Yet for me the gospel teachings of Jesus impact every part of my life. One of the reasons I am a Liberal is because Liberals do a better job at living out the social gospels of Jesus. Such as feeding the hungry, helping the poor and sick, fighting for the environment, free choice(God believed in free will so that tell me he believes in free choice, but the state should not pay for abortions).

    White Nationalism/Christian Identity/ National Socialism etc. for me wasn’t a political idea I could embrace as in the end it went against everything I was taught and believed as a traditional Catholic. Many of you have rejected the Christian God and are embracing Odin or the other Nordic Gods, and some like yourself have rejected the concept of God all together. CI believes in the OT and the Laws but not the NT and the love of Christ. They have a pride in their religion that would condemn anyone who isn’t CI to hell.

    I don’t agree with every single Liberal concept. Yet, that is ok. I think Liberals respect the fact that we are not all robots but are human beings and that we have a right to come to our own conclusions on matters. It was the time I spent with Jeff and the CI/WN that I felt really pressured to think a certain way. So much of everything is parroted.

    Yes, I do believe in the goodness of people Garfield. It may be pollyanna, but I believe in my heart that if we as mankind decide to work together that we can solve the problems that are facing us as a generation. Climate Change is the most important issue for me.

    As saving the white race is important to you as a WN well saving the planet is just as important to me as a member of the Green Party.

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    Garfield Says:

    Well based on what you have stated above about free choice and though you could not reconcile to those beliefs but chose the easier more secular route does not make any other beliefs less relevant. As to CI I see it as a stumbling block to True WN and infact any god based dogma. I simply cannot believe that a god allows such attrocities to occur in this world, and no I can’t even consider than evil is to blame, evil was created to explain to the ignorant why there go won’t send rain or a good harvest centuries ago. And from that concept organized religion sprouted and infested the earth.

    Saving the planet is a concern to me but my WN beliefs are foremost, and many third world countries should be left to rot and the jungle reestablish itself, its dog eat dog Chrisy and some tough choices need to be made, the first should be to stop feeding the worlds starving and prolonging there inevitable doom, there goverments are corrupt and its expected that liberal goverments take over feeding there populace.

    End it now.

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    chrisy58 Says:

    Garfield says:” Saving the planet is a concern to me but my WN beliefs are foremost, and many third world countries should be left to rot and the jungle reestablish itself, its dog eat dog Chrisy and some tough choices need to be made, the first should be to stop feeding the worlds starving and prolonging there inevitable doom, there goverments are corrupt and its expected that liberal goverments take over feeding there populace.”

    You are one of the few White Nationalists who admits that Climate change is true. Most I have known in real life seem to be in denial or as I was told once by a WN that the White race has to be saved first and then and only then will they deal with fighting climate change, not realizing that not acting now is doing nothing.

    As you have your White Nationalism the first priority, for me it is climate change that must be dealt with first. That is why I am a member of the Green Party. I still have a lot to learn about ways that I can act that will help solve the problem, but I believe I have taken the first step and that is educating myself on this issue. I hope that my articles that I post on this blog help educate others as I too am learning about this issue.

    From your suggestion you would let other human beings suffer and die for starvation because they are not White. Would you feel that way if these people who you would want to die were WHITE? Or would you open your kind heart to try and feed them and help them? Many White Nationalists have very kind hearts. They help their fellow Whites and really care about other Whites.

    People in many parts of the world are suffering because already the climate is changing the the crops that once grew there are not growing there anymore because either of drought or to much rain. The glaciers are melting that is a water source for so much of the world and fresh water is running out. We have large Corporate farming and corporations telling the farmers that they have to use the GM seeds which have proven to be bad. There are many reasons why these small family farms are failing. I for one will not just turn my back and not try to help the suffering, poor and sick in the world.

    It is a moral issue to me and I will never stop fighting for what I believe is my moral duty. It takes courage to stand up to people and say you are WRONG to ignore the cries of the suffering in this world. You are WRONG to continue to let large corporations by the GREED destroy the planet. You are WRONG to put your political party first over what is best for the PEOPLE. Sometimes we lack the courage to speak up to those who hold our political views but keep silent because he agrees with us. That is one big problem I see with this generation that we don’t seem to have the courage to speak the truth and to fight for what we know is the morally right thing to do.

    I maybe stand alone and may be the only person who marches to my own drummer, but I will never just stand by and say that other human beings should just be allowed to suffer and die. I will always have compassion and will try to help people to survive.

    The answer is not to kill people who are already living but to educate people not to have as many children. Yet, I see White Nationalists encouraging other White Nationalists to have large families of 6 to 12 children. That is not going to help the situation we are facing but is going to make things worst. What kind of life will these 12 children per White Nationalist family be born into when because of climate change life is very different than what we have today. What makes the White Nationalist any different than the Black in Africa who has 12 children when the future world can’t support all the people who are being born because we don’t have the resources?

    This is one area that I differ with the Catholic Church with, because we aren’t dealing with the perfect world of people being able to have large families. We are dealing with a world that is going to be different because of the effects of Climate Change. People are going to have to limit the size of the families we have. I don’t believe in abortion( but since God believes in free will I do too), than I believe women should be allowed to take birth control and not made to feel like they are in sin.

    White Nationalists I have met can’t seem to understand that it doesn’t matter how many children you have to make sure your White race is still the master race on earth if we don’t find a way to stop the drastic effects of Climate Change coming down the Pike the White race won’t be here anyway. It won’t become extint because Blacks and Non Whites out bred them or some Jewish plot to kill the White race from the planet earth; but because all life on earth become extint because of climate change.

    Greens love their children and want them to have a future too, as White Nationalists love their children and want them to have a future too. I don’t have children but someday my beloved nephew will have children and I want my great nephews and neices to inherit a livable planet. I think of a great neice that I have now who is close to five years old. What kind of world is Addie going to inherit?

    Yet, how many tree hugger jokes have you heard lately. People like to make us out as some loons, but the truth is that we are trying to alert people to the real dangers that we are going to be facing as a world because of Climate change. It is a global problem and we need to work together globally to solve it.

    I will end with this quote:

    “Aristole tells us that ” At the Olympic games it is not the finest and the strongest men who are crowned, but they who enter the lists…So, too in the life of the honorable and the good it is they who act rightly who win the prize.” I believe that in this generation those with the courage to enter the moral conflict will find themselves with companions in every corner of the world.” (Robert F. Kennedy pg 133, Make Gentle the life of this world.)

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    Garfield Says:

    Nice heart felt post Chrisy, you seem to have breezed over a few critical issues, which are very contentious and should be discussed in greater depth, but I fear religion and politics have never mixed and if you have the fortitude to take criticism again your church then perhaps we could discuss it. As you have said you don’t agree with the dogma regarding contraception, but I believe there is a far sinister reason why the pope has never changes this. Its about controlling the masses and there subjugation, a liberated mind is a mind free to think and this is not what RC wants. Religion is in decline and the purse strings are shrinking every smaller.

    We have poor whites here and yes I help where I can, but I am no philanthropist by any measure, globally though there are fewer whites in poverty than blacks, obviously. Most whites are in first world nations and these nations keep Africa in a destabilized third world status, its easier to control the weak and hungry than crush the strong.

    I encourage all whites to have many children, yes many, after all we may be minorities in our own nations!

    Sadly Chrisy we must leave Africa to regenerate, perhaps then they may have enough pride in themselves to actually help themselves.

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    chrisy58 Says:

    Garfield, I saw your quote, but I am not posting it, because that great man my hero would not want his words being used by White Nationalists/Racialists to justify your beliefs which he spent a good part of his life fighting you. You take his words out of context.

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    chrisy58 Says:

    Yes, like all White Nationalists I have met in this world you don’t want to face reality that the real threat to your race is the global threat of climate change. You want to breed like rabbits because all you can see is that you need to have more Whites being born so you can keep you status of power over non Whites, not caring about the future world you are bringing those innocent children into.

    You don’t care that they are going to be living in a world that is very different than the one we are living now. All you White Nationalists can see is your pipe dream that if you have more babies and live in your all White homeland that all will be perfect and most of you don’t even think Climate change is real so why worry about the world that your children will be born into.

    The answer to the survival of the White race is not in having more children that adds to the problem and will lead them to suffer, but it is in realizng that the real threat is not Blacks, Jews, or anyone else you guys think is a threat to the White race but the effects that are going to be felt due to climate change that man seems to have no real desire to take the necessary steps to change the way we are living so as to stablize the planet.

    The answer is not having more children but the answer is to encourage couples to have one or two children. The answer is to try and find a global solution to a global promlem that is being felt by all of us on the earth. The answer is to admit to ourselves that man is part of the problem and not be in denial that climate change is real and we better get serious about figting it and stop playing these political games of looking like we are fighting it but aren’t really.

    Yes, the White race is in danger but so are all the other races. You miss the real enemy and focus on these strawmen who are not real. You White Nationalist would rather fight windmills instead of the real enemy. Yes, we might become extint but not because of some Jewish conspirisy to wipe Whites of the face of the planet but because of mankind not willing to face the truth that we are destroying ourselves by our greed, stupidity, and not being willing to face the facts that we need to make a drastic change in how we live in first world countries.

    We will never agree because we have such a different vision in this world.

    I will end with another quote. Please do not use my quotes back at me to justify your White Nationalist beliefs. Please use your own people to quote from. My hero was not a White Nationalist and fought against your beliefs, goals, and vision for the world.

    I can quote him because his quotes opened my eyes to the truth. I am where I am today because his words and actions really spoke to me. I was a kid for Kennedy and in 1968 I was really excited he was running for President. I couldn’t vote but he was my choice. I talked to adults into voting for him in the CA Primary. His words have always been a light for me in the darkness. You should be quoting David Duke or George Wallace as they are men who have fought for your vision of the world for years. Please don’t mock me by twisting the words of one of my heroes because you think it is funny to twist his words in support of your White Nationalist beliefs.

    ” God offers to everyone his choice between truth and repose. Take which you will- you can never have both.” Ralph Waldo Emerson.

    You have a choice Garfield and all you White Nationalists/National Socialist/Racialists you can either choose truth or repose.

    You can continue to deceive yourselves that you will achieve your dream of a perfect White Homeland where because it is all white there will be no crime but will be heaven. You can have 12 children per family, your white women will be submissive to her White man and everything will be perfect because now that the White man is free to live seperate from everyone else he will deal with the climate change problem by just magically waving his magic wand. You are at perfect peace and have achieved your dream.

    Or you can choose the truth. That climate change is a real threat to mankind and if we continue to do nothing or very little that all of life on this earth could become extint. That we have got to reduce the emissions to 350 which we are very far from doing. The Arctic is melting at a faster rate. The reality is that we are failing to meet what is necessary to keep life on this planet at a livable level.

    The truth is that we all of us of all races, religions, and genders are going to have to work together as one if we have any chance of success. There is no time to be wasted on your White Nationalist pipe dream. Do you guys really want the White race that you say you love so much to survive and your children to live a quality life? Or do you want to continue to place your heads in the sand and fight pretend enemies because you are to proud to admit that the real enemy is us and that we have got to find a way to bring levels down to 350 as max. Will you accept the truth that the way things are going that like a science fiction movie the 12 children per White family that you are bringing into this world are being born into a world that is HELL because mankind didn’t care enough to do what was necessary keep the planet livable.

  17. 17
    Garfield Says:

    I’ll choose WN everytime!!

    There is no honour in weakness!

  18. 18
    Garfield Says:

    “You have a choice Garfield and all you White Nationalists/National Socialist/Racialists you can either choose truth or repose”.

    One mans truth is another mans lies.

    To assume your is the truth is a naive bold step on your part considering you profess to be so liberal, there are many truths, don’t be so conceited to assume that your religious belief is the only one that is correct.

  19. 19
    chrisy58 Says:

    Garfield,

    You are living in a pipe dream. You are not living in the real world. You think your White Nationalist Cause is a Cause of HONOR, but the TRUTH is that it is one BIG LIE and someday you just might see the TRUTH and decide like many people that it is a waste of their time and energy.

    I don’t feel being a Progressive is a path for weak people. I feel that one has to be STRONG in order to continue to try and reach the people with the truth about such issues as Climate Change which you White Nationalist/National Socialists/Racialists deny is either real or as serious as your pipe dream of all will be perfect in your all White Homeland.

    It take HONOR and COURAGE to stand up and fight for what one thinks is their moral duty. Do you think David Duke is someone who is willing to stand up and do the HONORABLE Thing? He kept silent about Kevin Strom’s behavior. The Protools was nothing but a sham and used to keep those who wanted leaders to act with HONOR to be silenced.

    I respect leaders who are truly HONORABLE MEN. Who truly are men who lead my EXAMPLE and not just by words. I choose to be a Progressive because I believe our message is the truth and your message is a LIE.

  20. 20
    chrisy58 Says:

    Garfield,

    God believes in free will and so do I. You have chosen to reject God. That is your choice. I have chosen to accept God and the teachings of my church to be the truth.

    I don’t judge anyone. I have Pagan friends who we respect each other’s faith. As you reject God and don’t want to talk about him, I have a right to talk about God as he is a part of my life. This is my blog and so the Catholic view is going to be reflected. If you get a blog than you can have it where no religious or spiritual path is discussed on your blog.

    No one is forcing you to accept God.

  21. 21
    Garfield Says:

    ‘You are living in a pipe dream. You are not living in the real world. You think your White Nationalist Cause is a Cause of HONOR, but the TRUTH is that it is one BIG LIE and someday you just might see the TRUTH and decide like many people that it is a waste of their time and energy”.

    Once gain I remind you that live in a third world country that is degrading daily, so don’t profess to instruct me on the values of liberalism and god. There is no god nor true liberalism where I live, its dog eat dog, the weakest are preyed upon and the strong survive.

    Yes it is your blog but I would prefer a balance unbiased attitude to your unilateral style of censorship that you so high light about SF, you been taking notes from SF?

    Once again you make the arrogant assumption that WN is a lie purely from your myopic experience of it , however, SF is growing daily and that is not the result of lies but the realization of the average white man that he is interested in the cause of WN and identifies with its founding principles! As to religion, you know my views and I reiterate that church and state should be separated. Strange that liberalism and religion can be synonymous with stable and rational thought.
    _______________________
    My Comment:

    Just because I do something that I feel is in the best interest of my blog you attack me. That is such typical behavior from you White Nationalist men. A woman does what she thinks is the morally right thing to do and she is attacked for it.

    You got mad at me because I wouldn’t let you mock me or my hero. You hate the man and yet you want to twist his words to support your White Nationalism. You expect me to allow you to mock a great man in my eyes? That will never happen Garfield. I will never LET or ALLOW on my BLOG you to dishonor the memory of Robert Kennedy!!!!!

    I am not sorry I made the decision I did to delete that post and if it means you are now going to attack me for standing up for what I believe is the right thing, than so be it. I frankly don’t care what you White Nationalists/Nationalist Socialists think of me. Do you think I am going to faint by your anger and hate directeded at me. I have survived worst things in this life Garfield.

    I have been very fair with you Garfield. Much more fair than Antis are treated on SF, VNN or any White Nationalist forum or blog. What is posted here comes back on me not you. I have tried to allow your side a chance to speak your thoughts on the issues and articles I post here. Yet, I will not allow you to abuse the chance to make your thoughts and ideas known by your actions that are uncalled for.

    I do have a few simple rules. One of them is not to personal attack which you like to do Garfield whenever I do one little thing that you don’t like. I wouldn’t let you mock my hero who you hate so now I get attacked and have to deal with your anger. Yes, you are acting like a White Nationalist who can’t stand that I defend and am loyal to those who I admire. Yes, Robert Kennedy was and is my hero and that will never change. It doesn’t matter what anyone does to try and change that; I will always admire and respect him.

    I am not a White Nationalist/National Socialist. I am not one of you. I do not take my marching orders from YOU GARFIELD. If you want to continue to post comments on this blog I suggest you learn how to treat women with respect which includes LIBERAL and CATHOLIC women. You may not like my views, but you will act like a REAL MAN AND ACCEPT THAT SOMETIMES I AM GOING TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THIS BLOG THAT YOU DON’T LIKE. You must learn to deal with them and not act like a two year old when you don’t get your way.

    Yes, SF is growing but how many of those new Users are undercover people trolling for information and are playing an act? They are not all sincere WHITE NATIONALISTS who believe as you do. True you have some people who are discouraged and frustrated with life and who are looking for answers and stumble upon Stormfront who because they are treated with kindess start to believe the LIES that are being fed to them. When someone’s only source of information is White Nationalist/National Socialist material and hate and they are isolated from others than they start to believe the lies as truth.

    You don’t see it because you are still drinking the koolaide. You are still deceiving yourself that your White Nationalist/National Socialist Cause is a Cause of HONOR and that your LEADERS ARE HONEST, HONORABLE MEN who DESERVE YOUR RESPECT, LOYALITY, AND DEVOTION. The truth Garfield is that many of them are nothing more than CON MEN WHO LIE, STEAL AND THINK IT IS MORALLY ACCEPTABLE TO HAVE SEX WITH UNDERAGE GIRLS. You forget I spent many years living and seeing what many of these so called leaders did.

    More people are leaving the Cause than joining it. I truly believe that in my heart. In my own life I know lots of people who woke up to the truth and no longer are active in your White Nationalist cause. Some of them have become very vocal like me in speaking out. Others have just left and moved forward in life and are rebuilding their lives. Sadly some of the people I know are still involved with White Nationalism and will never leave even though they know that you White Nationalists will never succeed, but they don’t know anything else and it is hard to leave your friends behind. They will be true blue believers until the day they die. It doesn’t matter what anyone tries to say they will still believe that David Duke and other leaders are HONORABLE MEN.

    Yes, I know all about survival Garfield. I know about being strong and overcoming terrible things in my own life and continuing to fight for my life. Don’t think just because you live in South Africa that we Americans haven’t known struggle and hardship in our lives. Come live in one of our inner cities sometime and you will learn real quick that it is the strong survive and the weak die out.

    I use to runaway from home when I was a teen. I used to runaway a lot. I have survived living on the streets. I also don’t have the best homelife but I survive it because I am strong. If I was a weak person I wouldn’t be where I am today. Living with Jeff wasn’t a joyride either Garfield.

    I feel sorry for you, I really do, because you are so caught up in the lie of White Nationalism that you refuse to see the truth. I hope for your sake that you wake up in time to save yourself and your family from the heartbreak of finding out you were WRONG and wasted the best years of your life on the lie of White Nationalism.


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