I have been thinking of the direction I want my blog to go in. I don’t need to copy and paste anymore because I have deprogammed myself and am moving into learning new things and will be focusing more of what I am doing now. At the same time there are events in the news that I think it would be interesting to discuss such as this article. I have a curious mind and I like to discuss issues from all view points. It might not be possible but I am willing to see if we can debate the different issues and bring interesting discussion of the different issues on the internet for people to read.
You say you do what you do because you love your race and you want your race to survive and that you don’t hate other races.
These people are truly in a fight to survive. They are closer to being wiped out than your race is in the world. Will you fight to save them and fight those who want to take away the only homeland they have ever known, even if the people who are wanting to take their land for their own selfish greed are White? Are you willing to stand up and speak for the right of these people who are truly in a fight to survive? They face a threat that is now, while your threat is years from now. As you talk about the low birthrate and the effect that will happen in the future, these people are threaten in the here and now, and may not be here in 20 years.
I think of the people of Hawaii, who because of the contact with the White people became sick and many of them died. It is a very real threat these tribes are facing by being exposed to the outside world.
I am just wondering if you really mean what you say in that you will fight for the right of all races to survive or if they are just words. Or do you only love the “White” race? Do you care that these indigenous people are being wiped off the face of the earth? Or will you say that they deserve what is coming to them because nature weeds out the weak and the strong will survive?
Oil Firms and Loggers ‘Push Indigenous People to Brink of Extinction’
‘Uncontacted’ tribes forced to flee armed gangs and bulldozers in forests of Peru, Brazil and Paraguay, says Survival International
by John Vidal
Five “uncontacted” tribes are at imminent risk of extinction as oil companies, colonists and loggers invade their territiories. The semi-nomadic groups, who live deep in the forests of Peru, Brazil and Paraguay, are vulnerable to common western diseases such as flu and measles but also risk being killed by armed gangs, according to a report by Survival International, which identifies the five groups as the most threatened on Earth.
![[Mashco-Piro woman on the Las Piedras river, south-east Peru (Photograph: Heinz Plenge Pardo/Frankfurt Zoological Society)]](http://www.commondreams.org/files/article_images/oil_indigenous_extinction.jpg "oil_indigenous_extinction.jpg")
Mashco-Piro woman on the Las Piedras river, south-east Peru (Photograph: Heinz Plenge Pardo/Frankfurt Zoological Society)Sixty members of the Awá tribe are said to be fleeing from gangs of loggers and ranchers on their land near Maranhão, Brazil. “Logging roads have been bulldozed through a part of their territory, where the uncontacted groups are living. The ranchers want land to graze cattle for beef. The loggers regularly block roads to prevent government teams from entering the area to investigate,” says David Hill, a Survival researcher and co-author of the report.
Little is known about the group of 50 Indians who live along the River Pardo in the western Brazilian Amazon, although there is plenty of evidence for their existence, including communal houses, arrows, baskets, hammocks, and footprints along river banks. “Loggers operating out of Colniza have forced them to be constantly on the run, unable to cultivate crops and relying solely on hunting, gathering and fishing. It is believed that the women have stopped giving birth,” says the report.
Perenco, an Anglo-French oil company working in a proposed Indian reserve in northern Peru, is endangering several uncontacted tribes, says the report. “The company plans to send hundreds of workers into the region. In recent weeks, indigenous protesters have blockaded the Napo river in order to prevent Perenco boats from passing. In response, a naval gunboat was called in to break the blockade.”
One group is believed to be a sub-group of the Waorani, and another is known as the Pananujuri. Perenco denies the tribes exist.
Other tribes in trouble include several living near the Envira river in the Peruvian Amazon. “They are being forced to flee across the border into nearby Brazil. Despite being provided with evidence of their existence, Peru’s government has failed to accept that uncontacted Indians are fleeing from Peru to Brazil. Peru’s president, Alan Garcia, has suggested the tribes do not exist,” says the report.
Ranchers are bulldozing land where a fifth group lives – the Ayoreo-Totobiegosode in the Chaco forest of western Paraguay. This week a Paraguayan court ruled that a company had the right to log on their land, further endangering their existence.
There are believed to be more than 100 uncontacted groups in the world. They are concentrated in Latin America, and aerial photographs of one uncontacted tribe in Brazil’s Acre state captured headlines a year ago. But as many as 40 could live in West Papua, where vast areas of forest and mountain have been barely explored.
“They remain in isolation because they choose to, and because encounters with the outside world have brought them only violence, disease and murder. They are among the most vulnerable peoples on Earth, and could be wiped out within the next 20 years unless their land rights are recognised and upheld,” said Stephen Corry, director of Survival.
© Guardian News and Media Limited 2009
You can view my comment at SF
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My comments: Gen, I made it very clear, that I wasn’t going to be reading the comments on SF or posting to them. If you had wanted to answer the question here in a fair and honest debate, you had the chance.
Are you afraid to answer the question here? Are you afraid to debate a woman on a level playing field without the mods at SF protecting you?
Thanks but no thanks. IF you don’t have the guts to answer my question here, than I really don’t care what you have to say.
Chrisy
In the last paragraph, Stephen Corry of Survival International says: “They remain in isolation because they choose to, and because encounters with the outside world have brought them only violence, disease and murder.”
Why can’t white tribes live in isolation and avoid the violence, disease, and murder of outsiders?
I looked at the website of Survival International and it says they support tribal peoples worldwide. But when you look at the tribes they support, none of them are white.
These people are the hypocrites wanting to preserve tribes of people who don’t care about them, yet they care nothing about the destruction of their own race.
Look, I care about the survival of my own people. I also believe in survival of the fittest and those people are very backward. They need to fight their own fight
Bob,
I would like to thank you for your well thought out comment. I don’t agree with you of course, but I believe each person has a right to free thought and so I thank you for posting your thoughts in such an adult manner.
Your question to me is Why can’t Whites choose to live in isolation from the outside world to avoid disease, violence, and murder.
That is a fair question. Though I don’t know if the same priciple applies. It is kind of like comparing apples to oranges. These tribes have lived islolated from the rest of the world and haven’t had contact with the White or Western man. You on the other hand are White and part of the Western world who yes, we have done some of the most wonderful things in the world, but at the same time have by our imposing our will on the Third World and others we have been the most destructive.
So that leads to the question do we as a race have the right to impose our will, and take what we want even if it means we destroy others, the planet, the resources? We are talking about more than just people here but the Rainforest that is the lungs of the earth. We are destroying something by our greed that is only going to hurt us and future generations. By destroying these tribes and the rainforests where they live we are destroying ourselves.
Personally, I wouldn’t have a problem if you White Nationalists could find an undiscovered island in this world and decided to make it your own White Homeland. If you would agree to live in peace with the rest of the world and didn’t bother anyone else than you should be allowed to build your own White Nation. I do have a problem with you trying to turn America into your all White Nation, because we have non Whites who were born here and whose ancestors also help build this country with their blood, sweat and tears. If you can find a nation who will elect you White Nationalists into political power and it is truly the voice of the people than of course the rest of the world would have to find a way to work with you as we must find a way to work with all the other nations in the world. Though you will have to be more open about your political goals and views than you have been and quit trying to hide behind the mask of we are an all White heritiage group.
Are there any “White” tribes that are in danger of being wiped off the face of the earth within the next 10-15 years? The White race is not going to be destroyed with in the next 10-15 years, as children born today are living into adult hood. The tribes that this group supports are tribes that are in danger now (today) and not 100 years or more from now. Even 100 years from now, there will still be White people walking on the face of the earth. True you might not be the majority race, but you will still be living, eating, and drinking and fighting for the resources that one needs to live.
I have a question for you Bob. If the planet is running out of resources to support the added population of people which it is and millions of people around the world die each year because the planet can’t support all the people; why do you White Nationalists insist on having more and more children and you are in a race with the other races to see who can have the most children. If you know that the planet can’t support all the people being born into the world and your children are going to suffer because the world can’t support that many people, than do you think you are truly loving your future children by bringing them into a world that you know can’t support them and they will suffer the effects of that decision?
The answer is not in White people having more children, but in educating the other people around the planet to the truth so that they will use birth control and not bring as many babies into the world. I know I as a Catholic just stated something that goes against the teaching of the church, but I am opposed to abortion and birth control seems logical to me. I love children and I don’t want to see any child suffer. If all the nations use family planning and took into consideration of if we as a planet could suppport the human population than the quality of life for all humans would improve.
Yes, I knew it would get back to if one is not White Nationalists they are anti White and want the White Race to be destroyed off the face of the earth. I am sorry but I don’t believe that. My mother and I were having a dicussion about the appointment of the judge to the Supreme Court last night. She said she was a Racist and wanted to destroy the White Race, like I suppose you believe. I tried to explain to my mom that she was not a racist and she was not anti-white and wanted to destroy the White race by her comment. Is it the end of the world that we have an hispanic women going to be sitting on the Supreme court over a White Man? I think many times one’s comments get taken out of context and the true intent of what is in the heart is missed. My mother like you thinks the White Race is being attacked and their goal is to destroy the White race, but I frankly don’t see that.
I love my race. I love my Celtic Heritiage and culture. That is who I am. I want to see us survive and flourish in the world. I also want to see all ethnic groups, tribes, and races be able to live by their values, traditions and heritiage. Just because I love everything Celtic and enjoy my own culture doesn’t mean I think other ethnic groups or tribes are less important than my own.
I may not be explaining this very well.
I also notice you bring in the nature aspect of only the strong survive and the weak die off. I don’t know if you remember Bob, the movie blood and honor. It was based on a true story of the Hitler Youth in Germany. It talked about the youth who were educated in the Thrid Reich and what happen to them. Their was one boy who was very gun ho who at one point in the movie said only the strong survive and the weak perish when one of their class mates died. It was nature weeds out the weak and if one is going to survive one has to be strong. They didn’t mourn their classmate but just wrote him off as weak and not strong enough to live in their White World.
You say they are backward. Yes, compared to the rest of the world they are backward. Yet, what determines who is backward and who is not backward. I know people would consider me backward because I am not as educated as I should be. Some would think I am down right stupid. Yet, am I backward because I haven’t had the chance to learn or am I backward because I have not the ability to learn? They have their own culture maybe to them we are the backward ones because while we have cell phones and the latest technology we may have lost our spiritual side and they have something more valuable they have strong personal relationships with each other, where as we have lost the strong personal bonds with each other.
Yes, in the end the strong will win and they will loose. Though for me I think we haven’t really won anything, because the cost to future generations by allowing more of the rainforest to be destroyed by the greed of the strong is going to add to future suffering that we all will be facing.
I know many of you don’t believe in Climate Change, but I do.
Thank you again Bob, for responding to my question.
You are as devious, trying to entice fellow WN to visit this rag blog, or you cut anf paste at will from SF. Never minf the context and long as you spew your drivel.
Why not defend yourself at SF or does this yellow room give you comfort.
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My comment:
I have not copied and pasted since you guys quit attacking an innocent person. You leave her alone and I will not copy and paste your comments. I am living up to that. The question is are you White Nationalists living up to not attacking an innocent person whose only crime was to befriend me?
I was very open and said I was posting the question on SF for you all to think about it. I also said I would not be posting on SF. I am not copying or pasting your responses, but I offered this place to come and make your comments. I also said I wasn’t reading what responses are posted on SF, so I don’t know what you idiots are saying. You can say the most mean and vicious things and I don’t know because I am not reading your hate.
You consider SF a level playing field? If you think SF is fair and would be a place of fair and honest debate than you are even more delusional than I think you White Nationalists are.
Are you afraid to have real debate with a woman on a real level playing field? It seems you are because instead of being an adult like Bob, you choose to attack. That is real manly of you, isn’t it?
You WN are angry because I speak the truth of how women are treated within the Cause!!!!! I even have White Nationalists tell me that they disagree with my views but know I am telling the truth about how women are treated. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
I also am telling the truth about the quality of many of your so called leaders in the Cause. Yet, you seem afraid of the truth and would rather live in la la land that your White Nationalist leaders are all men of truth, honor, and the saviors of your race. Yet, what have they really accomplished for all their years of so called effort? You don’t make them give an account of their actions and year after year they continue to be a side show of being snake oil salemen. Yes, the glorious Cause that you all believe in is nothing but a fairy tale. Your tales of White Unity is a big fat lie, because that is not the real world. You believe the lie and refuse to see the truth.
Yes, I copied and pasted so I could debate your thoughts so I could deprogram myself. Since real debate is impossible with you people, I had to copy and paste your thoughts so I could debate your ideas.
Since you are an example of a someone who lacks understanding and who most likely is not the best educated person in the world, you would never understand someone debating only ideas. I know I am not very good at spelling, but your post really shows your lack of education. I thought about correcting your mistakes, but I decided to let people see your comment as it was. I could have cared less who you people were, I only posted the ideas I wanted to comment on. You don’t debate the idea but just personally attack, so that is why real debate is nearly impossible.
I also said I didn’t think it was possible to try and have real debate on this blog. Where you people post your thoughts on issues and I and other people post our thoughts on issues, but I was willing to try. This is my attempt to try and see if White Nationalists are brave enough to discuss issues as adults on a true level playing field and not protected on SF. Who is the real yellow belly? My money is on you. Actually you are proving my point and the point of many others who try and give you White Nationalists a place to have real honest debate where you White Nationalists aren’t protected and sheltered by your White Nationalist mods on SF. You can’t do it, can you Mr. 14/88.
I am actually moving on in life. I am embracing new things. I just wanted to see if on some articles if it was possible to have you White Nationalists comment from your perspective as adults, but I think the results so far say that for the most part that you White Nationalists are not able to act like adults and have discussion on the issues effecting the world on any other avenue outside your White Nationalist playground of SF. You talk about how great and smart you are, but for some reason you can’t talk about the issues that effect the world any other place but SF. Why is that?
Since you are so smart, Mr. White Nationalist tell me why can’t you debate me without being protected by your SF mods?
I have come to the conclusion that I was right in my thinking that there is no real discussion on the issues with you White Nationalists. I had kept the account on SF in case people wanted to pm me there. I logged out of the Annabelle K account. If one of the mods would be so kind as to delete that account I would be grateful. All other accounts have been deleted so you White Nationalists don’t have to worry about me posting on your board. For those White Nationalists who think I can start a fake account, rest assured the administration on SF knows my ip address for when I was Annabelle K.
I did read your posts on the question I started. You people are really loosers. You are so caught up in your White Nationalist Cult that you wouldn’t see the truth if it hit you over the head. You will never understand because you are so caught up in the lie of White Nationalism that you have no concept of what is real.
I am moving forward in life and learning new things. Those White Nationalists who feel they can comment in an adult manner are welcome to leave comments regarding the things I post on my blog. For those who want to be stupid idiots, and just attack me personally, well, all I can say is I hope someday you realize the truth. You think you are serving this great glorious Cause and you are following honorable leaders who will lead you to victory and who are honest and have never told a lie. Someday you just might find that you are living an illusion.
You are brainwashed and you don’t even know it. You believe a lie as truth and frankly, I don’t think you want to know the truth or face reality. That is your decision. People like you and my mom don’t even realize that the crap you are saying is a lie.
For the first time in my life I have to make the tough decision of what I believe and not just believe what I am told to believe by someone else. I don’t know where I stand on all the issues because I have so much I need to learn, but as I learn more and more, it will become easier for me to decide what I believe as a person and to be able to say why I believe something and not just say because so and so told me to believe something.
I actually feel like a chain has been lifted from my legs and I am free to fly. Yesterday I listened to the song free bird. Like that free bird I am leaving the past behind me. I don’t know where I will end up, but I am beginning to find my way out of the darkness and into a much better place.
Someday I hope all of you White Nationalists will realize the truth and you will be able to release that chain that is keeping you chained to a lie. I hope someday my mom realizes that her reality and her vision on things is based on a lie and not the truth. Someday, I hope she can understand and accept me as I am. Who will see I am not such a bad person, but that will see the good in me and not always see the worst in me.
My invite is still on the table to those of you who want to respond to this article. So far I have had one person who actually discussed the article with me in an adult manner. Thank you Bob, for at least showing me that not all of you are total idiots who can’t discuss issues.
14/88 I did get your reply, but I am not posting it. It was not talking about the issues but just attacking me and my Catholic faith. Thank you for showing me that you have no goodness inside of you. I feel sorry for you, because all the evil and hate you sowed is going to come back to you.
I am truly free of any feelings for White Nationalists. I have been cured of any feelings of friendship I held for any of you. Those feelings are gone now.
You White Nationalists may not have liked how I deprogrammed myself, but my words and your words are still written in cyber space and in the future someone may just read those words and realize just how evil you White Nationalists truly are. They were your own words and thoughts and I just commented on them. Hopefully during my time of deprogramming myself I helped others to see the truth about White Nationalism and you were not able to deceive them. No, I won’t be copying and pasting your words anymore, because I have moved past that. I will still fight you though.
Remember White Nationalists you reap what you sow. You sow hate than that is what you will reap. I choose to sow love and hopefully love will come to me.
Chrisy
Can I hear you say ‘Praise the lord’?
Get a life, or smoke some weed or coke you’re good at that at least.
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My comments:
I am sure you posted all your nasty little comments on SF. Don’t you realize that SF doesn’t post every little comment either. Why should I post every single comment?
You haven’t won any victory. Actually the only victory you won is in your mind. You are delusional like all you haters are. Yes, you are hater. I know in your own little mind you think that you are this honorable man who has courage and is going to win over anyone who dares to stand up to you. But the truth is that I believe there are more people in the world who know that White Nationalism and the Right Wing is only full of CRAP.
Yes, I am drug addict. I have been clean for sometime, but yes, I liked to smoke pot. I know I must be a terrible person because in my youth I did drugs. Do you judge all your WN buddies who have drinking problems? Do you judge all your WN buddies who smoke pot before? NO, you only judge and condemn me.
I actually thank you and your WN buddies because whatever feelings I had left of affection are ALL GONE. I HAVE NO FEELINGS OF LOVE FOR ANYONE I KNEW AS A WHITE NATIONALIST. YOU HAVE ERASED ALL THE GOOD MEMORIES I EVER HELD.
I am totally free from any chains of love that kept me tied to those few good people I met during my time as a WN. I am totally free.
Can you delete as quick as I can Post?
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My Comment:
You stupid little games!!!!!
Do you really think this makes you look like a strong tough man?
. “No, I won’t be copying and pasting your words anymore, because I have moved past that. I will still fight you though”.
LOL, like deleting my brilliant reply, great fight!
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My Comment:
Your great reply was only great in your own mind.
Now that I am deprogrammed and am moving into the future and starting to think clearly I will be doing lots of things.
Yes, I will fight you White Nationalists, but I will be doing it in a whole new direction and I won’t be posting it on the internet either. You guys have actually given me a new fire and a new passion to fight you. Keep your stupid silly games up and you will make me fight you even more and more. You haven’t done your White Nationalists any favors by your actions. You have just lit a new fire under me, so thank you for reuniting my passion to make sure your White Nationalism fails and never gains any power in this country.
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My comments:
Actually, I don’t want a joint. I don’t want to smoke some Hash or snort some coke. You would like that wouldn’t you?
You talk about me and my emotions but what about you and your emotions. While you are acting all crazy by posting all these comments, I am growing more stone cold.
I am loosing whatever feelings I had for the good White Nationalists and that will help me in the fight in the days ahead. I won’t be tied anymore by chains of love I felt for some people. All that is gone now, and while you White Nationalists react out of emotions any feelings I had are stone dead.
“Now that I am deprogrammed and am moving into the future and starting to think clearly I will be doing lots of things”.
If WN is not for you chrisy then great, but who programmed you to start with?
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My comment:
The first reasonable sounding comment you have made. Yet, I am not going to answer you, because frankly I don’t give a damn about you or any White Nationalist at this time.
If you had acted in a more honorable manner I might have had a reasonable discussion with you and your White Nationalists and really talked, but thanks to you White Nationalists showing your true colors of what jerks you are, that wanting to talk about the issues has passed.
No, all feelings of kindness, love, and friendship are GONE FOREVER. YOU GUYS KILLED IT.
I have nothing more to say to you or you White Nationalists buddies. As they say on SF when a thread has outlived it purpose a thread is closed and locked; this thread is locked and no more comments will be approved.
14/88
I don’t care how many comments you make and on what articles you make them on, your posts are not going to be approved. As SF likes to ban the posters who they feel have nothing to offer, you have proven you have nothing to offer this board. I don’t care if you make 1000 comments they will not be approved.
You have KILLED any FEELINGS I had of thinking that there were resonable, intelligent and honest White Nationalists. You have proven yourselves as jerks, stupid, and emotional. You are acting out on your emotions by posting stupid spam for me to delete, while I am growing stone cold and any good feelings I have are dead.
So Thank you for destroying the only thing that kept me from totally turning my back and walking away. Thank you for cutting the chains that were holding me to those White Nationalists I had developed personal feelings of friendship with. Thank you for showing me that no matter what it takes and no matter what I have to do, I will fight to make sure that you and your White Nationalists end up where you belong and will not EVER ACHIEVE POLITICAL OR ANY POWER IN AMERICA.
I AM OK NOW, THANKS TO YOU, BECAUSE I WILL NO LONGER HAVE ANY EMOTIONAL TIES TO WHITE NATIONALISTS.
Well, looks like we have a couple more racialists that need to be run back to the safety of Stormfront.
First off, Bob, you are a moron. Europeans DID once live in relative isolation, in 100% European societies. And do you know what they spent a lot of time doing? Killing each other. Yup, there’s your white unity.
14/88, Stormfront is run by bitches who can’t handle any real debate. David Duke is a complete fraud and a con-man. Right now the SPLC released a story about his obvious plaigarism of Kevin MacDonald in his book Jewish Supremacy. But they don’t even know the best part- Duke doesn’t even do his own research(which explains how it was plaigarized in the first place). He has an American friend in Russia who does all that work for him, and apparently not very well.
Don Black is a fake who pretends to be revolutionary while constantly shilling for Republicans. Look it up some time.
There is nothing funnier than a bunch of dupes who think that they know “what’s really going on.”
Chrisy,
How about just targeting the anti-women crap, over there? There’s enough material to work with for a lifetime, and it’s lots of fun. The normal people won’t be offended. Just focusing on that will be a way for you to move on, but have fun with it.
Thank you Aslan for your post.
I was just on SF to read what was being said. White Nationalists are really stupid people. I could copy and paste his remarks to prove that he actually said these words, because I don’t want to be accused of lying, which is what White Nationalists and Right Wingers do. I think that is why I learned the hard way to copy and paste to cover my behind so that people know I am not lying. I know it is unbelievealbe the things White Nationalists and Right Wingers say, but they say them.
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Danny Mathews
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Re: Question for White Nationalists
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Originally Posted by Gen. De la Rey
A Request from Annebelle K:
“I have come to the conclusion that I was right in my thinking that there is no real discussion on the issues with you White Nationalists. I had kept the account on SF in case people wanted to pm me there. I logged out of the Annabelle K account. If one of the mods would be so kind as to delete that account I would be grateful. All other accounts have been deleted so you White Nationalists don’t have to worry about me posting on your board.”
http://chrisy58.wordpress.com/2009/0…n/#postcomment
Could a mod please assist poor annebelle k?
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She’s obviously had multiple accounts here, and she’s logged in again since she made that post (and read this thread after saying she wouldn’t), so she’s clearly got issues, and seems to be unable to stay away from this place.
On that basis disabling her account would probably make no difference, as she’d have another urge to post here, and probably either sign up with yet another account, or reappear as a guest.
There’s not a lot you can do about people like that, they have to work through their own issues, and the best strategy is just to ignore them.
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I know you White Nationalists don’t believe in the TRUTH, but here is the TRUTH for you.
One I had the one account Annabelle K which I have logged out of and asked that it be deleted, but so far it looks like it hasn’t.
You guys are really stupid aren’t you. SF is a public board. I am not logged on and yet I just copid and pasted your post to prove that you guys are so stupid that you think in order to read this thread I have to be logged on. I had to copy and paste your post to prove to the world that I am not lying, because most of the world knows that one doesnt’ have to be logged on SF to see your posts. That is the way it is Mr. White Nationalist. You guys are not only loosers but are stupid.
Only in your own minds is the reality that you are so smart that you win every debate with an anti on SF and that they go away because they have been defeated. You guys are really delusional if you think that is why Anti’s finally decide it is not worth the effort to debate you. They come to the conclusion that it is a waste of their time and energy to try and have a discussion with you, because you are so brainwashed and deceived that you only parot the White Nationalist lie. You have no real reasoning skills.
Someone didn’t like the fact that I spoke out about your girls with guns pictures. They said I was a mean a terrible person because I spoke up and said I thought it was a terrible thing and in my views a form of child abuse. If I were to add a poll on my blog, and ask the real world and not just your White Nationalist make believe world if they thought little children should be firing guns and taking pictures with guns; I think most people would agree with me that they find those pictures upseting. You White Nationalists and Right Wing like to make it out like I am the crazy and looney one, but the truth is, I think my mind is the normal one and you are the ones who are delusional and really have the mental problems. Yes, I have PTSD caused by people like you, but I believe if I was saved and given a safe place to live away from you mad hatters that given time and healing that I would be a productive member of society where as you nut cases are a threat to society with your delusional White Nationalist views.
You are actually quite funny. There is nothing funnier than dumb people thinking that they are so smart and superior to others because they happen to be born White, yet who have no clue of what is really going on. You are only smart in your own mind Danny and only on SF where you are protected by the mods and are surrounded by all the other brainwashed idiots who make up your White Nationalist cause can you deceive yourselves into thinking you are smart intellectuals because you happen to be born white. At least I know I am dumb and not try to pass myself off as superior to others because I happen to be born to White parents. I wonder who is the real joke? You who think you are so smart because you are White when the reality is you don’t know anything but only are deceived to believe lies that you have been brainwashed to believe as the truth; or me who knows I am dumb and wants to learn and learn all I can about the world so I can gain knowledge?
Aslan, White Nationalists are a lost cause. There is no saving them, because they don’t want to be saved. They would rather wallow in the mud with the pigs. I have accepted that anyone who still is involved in White Natioanlism or who believes their WN message has not part in my life. They are part of the enemy. I can’t allow whatever feelings I had of freindship get in the way of moving ahead and doing what I need to do in life.
saturnia,
Actually, I am moving on with life and will be going in a different direction with my blog. I feel like I have in the past year provided enough information and in their own words to prove that White Nationalism is anti-women. The threads with their words and our comments are in cyberspace and people will continue to read them in the future.
My main focus in life is to heal from all the years and effects of mental, emotional, physical and sexual abuse I have suffered. I spent the last year deprogramming myself and now it is time to move the fight in another direction. I am still going to be fighting, but I think I will be taking the fight off the internet.
To continue fighting White Nationalists the way I have been doing is allowing myself to continue to wallow in the mud with the pigs. It drags me down and keeps me from totally moving forward in life and putting the past behind me. Thanks to the actions of White Nationalists the last couple of days since I posted the question the remaining chains of love that kept me tied to a few White Nationalists have been broken. I no longer feel love and friendship for the good ones. From this day forward, anyone who is still involved in White Nationalism is not my friend. If they decide they want to get out of the mud pit that is White Nationalism than I will try and help them, and we can try to re-establish the friendship, but as long as they are White Nationalists they will have no role in my life. Maybe that sounds hard, but I am not going to waste my time with people who refuse to help themselves by getting out of the mud with the pigs.
I will continue to focus on Women’s issues around the world. I am going to post articles and media links of new things I am learning and other materials to educate myself. I see this blog becoming a learning blog where people can learn about all different topics of interest. What topics would you like to learn about that have nothing to do with White Nationalism?
Let’s say someone wanted to know about marine life than I would try and find articles on that topic and post them so that we can become more educated on the issues.
My hope is that the White Nationalist section will fade away and I won’t have to post anymore on the topic. Just because I won’t be fighting them on the internet doesn’t mean I won’t be fighting them, I will just not be fighting them on the internet and I won’t be posting how I am going to fight them either. Because White Nationalists are so stupid they have made my fire and passion to destroy them burn brighter and brighter. Yet, they are so stupid they can’t even see that they are their own worst enemies, because the small chain of love and friendship for the few good ones is broken by their dishonorable actions.
Do you still have your blog? I would encourage you to take on that fight you suggested for my blog and post how White Nationalist truly treat women. It might help you to move forward too. You could find the style the works for you in getting the truth out. I hope you will pick up the torch of former White Nationalist women speaking out to the current White Nationalist women with the truth. Maybe you just might make a difference for good while at the same time getting out the emotions that you must be feeling inside.
Life is always full of changes, and it is time for me to change. I am proud of the work I have done the past year and a half, but I need to change the direction of my blog to more of an educational blog because that is where my need is now.
What is the link to your blog? I would love to check it out. If you decide to do on your blog what you suggested for this blog, I would be glad to post and help you in any way I could. Since you have decided to leave SF and the whole White Nationalism scene I will be glad to help you with finding a way to tell the truth to other women.
Love
Chrisy
I think it’s good you’re moving away from posting about WNism, it seemed you were only bringing more negativity on yourself.
As for the anti-women stuff, it’s out of my hands, not my problem, anymore. People will make their own decisions. I need to focus on me and and my family and friends, now. I’m through trying to help people, as I usually seem to get screwed from both ends.
Their rants may sound anti-women, but they’re not anti-ALL women; that is, as long as you “know your place,” think your “role” should a passive housewife type that joined “the movement” to cook, clean, be a broodmare, and make “the movement” look pretty, and don’t think women should be in politics, the workforce, should vote, etc., whatever other little box they want to put you in. Come to think of it, I never fit the “perfect WN woman” ideal.
I shut down that blog a long time ago, I don’t know if I’ll start another one. I’d like to move away from all this, altogether.
Other than that my man’s still waiting for an e-mail from this guy, lol:
“For all those guys that like their women checking their own oil, and changing their own flat tires..Why don’t you marry a grease monkey ?”
My response:
“Why don’t you ask my husband that, he asks me if I check my fluids, if I did this or that. Hell, he’ll even ask if I got my gun on me (we both carry). He is very much a man, just doesn’t like helpless “princess” types. His email is bruce78@cox.net. His name is Chris, he’s taking all inquiries and comments after 6PM central time.”
Still hasn’t heard from him. ;0
So what topics are you interested in learning about? Education is a good thing. Gaining knowlege is a good thing. It is time to do what is best for me and that is self-teaching myself on any topic I want to learn about. The world will be opening before me.
I do understand your feelings about starting a blog and posting the truth about things. As you say people have to make up their own minds about things. I did it because I wanted to try and make a difference for good and to try and help people to see the truth so that they would not be deceived or hurt. I wanted to expose their lies with the truth. I think I did that. Someone needed to stand up to them and I did. I am a spitfire.
I think one of the things I have learned through all of this is to be more careful and smart in who I allow in my life and into my heart.
I think it is good that you focus on you, your family and your true friends. We both have gone through a ringer and we need to focus on what is best for us.
I usually put others needs in front of my own needs, but not anymore. Now, I am going to be focusing my blog on what I need.
Good luck, and I hope you will post your thoughts on the articles I post and we can start talking about other topics.
Love
Chrisy
Well, I liked the last thread about organic dairy farms, as I’m all into organic food. Issues like that would be good to post. Also, environmental conservation, world politics, history, the medical industry. Those usually are interesting.
May I ask you a favor. Can you post your comment to the organic dairy thread so we can shut down discussion on this thread once and for all.
It is time we let this thread die and move our positive discussion about organic food, enviornmental conservation, world politics, history etc to a thread that has not been polluted by any discussion with White Nationalists.
14/88 tried to post another couple of comments and as long as you and I are talking on this thread even though we are talking about topics that have nothing to do with them, still want to comment and try to bring us back to them.
I am looking forward to discussing the topics that you mentioned as I too share some of the same interest, plus I also share climate change, marine life, space, and wildlife conservation.
Love
Chrisy
As expected, 14/88 and his buddy Bob have run back to Mama SF, tails between legs.
Actually Aslan, 14/88 has tried to post comments, but since White Nationalists have proved beyond a doubt that they are not able to handle themselves in an adult manner in the discussion of issues, they are no longer welcome to come to the table of debate where the adults are.
I tried to give White Nationalists a chance to be able to discuss their side of the political spectrum on a level playing field with others from all different political spectrums. The result was their stupid little personal attacks not only on me but another person whose only crime was to befriend me. They spammed the board with their stupid little games because they thought it would irrate me, but the results were that they bit off their nose to spite their face. They don’t want to discuss the issues like adults but just be like little kids who can’t really add to the debate with their thoughts so they personally attack. White Nationalists from SF have showed that they are not able to be part of any real political debate, but can only post on their protected White Nationalist playground of Stormfront.
Whatever chains of affection I had for the few good quality White Nationalists were sawed off and broken after this last attempt to try and bring White Nationalists to the table to try and discuss their ideas. They failed the test, and I am finished trying to allow them to have a place to sit at the political table of discussion. They truly are their own worst enemies and are actually very stupid.
Yes, I am not going to be fighting them on the internet and am moving my blog into the area of education and learning. I was thinking about that anyway, before this last failed attempt. I knew in my mind that it wasn’t possible to allow White Nationalists to have any say on my blog once the blog was changing course, but I wanted to at least try. I am willing to try things first before totally writing off the idea.
They actually have NOT won anything, because I will still fight them, but it won’t be on the internet. Yes, I won’t be copying and pasting their words anymore and commenting them, but those threads and comments are still in cyberspace for the whole world to read. I had just finished what I had started out to do and it was time for me to move on in another direction.
Bob, never posted back, so Bob is one that in fact did run back to mama SF with his tail between his legs.
14/88 would still like to be part of the discussion as in his last comment he said he would like to take part of the discussion about organic foods, but frankly, I don’t want to babysit White Nationalist boys who live in a man’s body.
I hope Aslan that you will still be part of this blog and comment on the articles. What topics are you interested in learning about that don’t have to deal with White Nationalism.
Best Wishes
Chrisy
I still receive the e-mails for this topic. There really isn’t much else to say.
Anyway, there’s no SF to run to now.
My comment:
Why where did SF go?
Tell me Bob, are you a dedicated White Nationalist or just a conservative who reads and posts at SF?