As those of you know I had started a thread about the future of my blog. I was thinking of the direction I wanted to take my blog in the future with more media links and less White Nationalist stuff as I don’t need to copy and paste their posts do debate them for my own personal deprograming any more. I thought I would go into the direction of giving people a chance to hear news and media from a different view point than Right Wing/White Nationalist posts.
American Celtic Scot and his little buddies are not very bright because their latest WN attack has made me more determine to fight. They call me and all Liberals mentally ill, but who are the really sick people. My money is on White Nationalists. They live in la la land. They can’t get a real woman so White Nationalists have to have fantisy girls who are not real that they drool over.
On another thread that they were attacking a real woman who is being considered for the Supreme Court I posted a couple of their visons of beauty that are not real. I decided to start a thread here of their dream girls that WN drool over but who are not real. I will be adding to this thread of WN dream girls as I find new pictures of the girls WN think are real women but who are only real in their mind.
I found this picture on SF’s thread Girls with Guns Motivational/Propaganda Posters. This one really makes me angry.
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The little girl is holding a teddy and a gun. She looks like she is 8 to 10 years old and you guys are posting her picture and are drooling over her.
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I don’t know who these little girls are, but I would say this is child abuse. Yes, drool and pretend these little girls grown women who you can dream about and who motivate you tobe White Nationalists.
I take this very seriously because I know what it is like to be a little girl and grown dirty old men lust after you. My life has been HELL because of it, and I hate to see it happening to another generation of little girls.
In the second picture I can’t tell how old the subject, but she doesn’t look to be 18, and I worry about them. No little girls should be exploited like this. These last couple of pictures really upset me.
They have posted a couple of more pictures of little girls and guns. I will admit I don’t think they find sexual delight, but they upset me very much to think these little girls are posing with guns and being trained to handle guns at such a young age. Guns kill people and I just hate the thought of these little girls being trained to use deadly force and not being allowed to be little girls who can enjoy a childhood.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showpost.php?p=6907226&postcount=84
I couldn’t post the picture but these are three little girls all holding a gun. The youngest one looks about 5 years old. I just hate to see these little girls being trained on dangerous weapons. It just breaks my heart.
Could really post a girls with guns without my little princess .
At least her dad covered her face, but that is a real gun and she is I think what kind of life is she going to lead.
I am sorry, but these pictures are very upsetting to me. People have died because someone shot them and I just don’t believe children should be posing in pictures with guns or even being trained at such a young age how to shoot guns.
is it just me or does that chick look a lil’ like Ann Coulter?
I can see the Ann Coulter in her. lol.
She would be the dream girl for Right Wing/White Nationalists as she is blonde/blue eyed and shares their political views.
Good one Cooper!!!
Interesting photo. A few years ago, a girl on some WN forum posted that photo, claiming that was her.
Yes, I have seen that photo before. Yet, it looks fake to me. It has never looked real to me.
She looks like a pretty girl, minus the Halloween costume of course!
Let them drool over women they will never have, because what they are doing is turning away girls who aren’t quite sure where they stand politically. Their feminazi comments, attempting to portray pictures like these as the “norm” for Aryan Princesses, haha. Ask anyone who has met someone with that screen name and they will tell you that she is nothing like this!
They drive away girls who ARE sure where they stand politically, too.
They post pics like this, and the “girls with guns” type of pics, yet the chicks are merely models posing for pics. They likely don’t believe in what they’re portraying, maybe have even had a mixed-race relationship and wouldn’t even give WNism a glance.
I couldn’t see those other posts with the pics of the young girls, for some reason. Now I can, and to me, it’s more like they are looking at her the way a father is proud of his daughter, and they think that girls should be taught to use firearms. I think the pics of the little girls are in decent taste. They would never be able to get away with real pedophile pics at SF.
I understand my friend what you are saying, but those pictures really upset me. The second one really got to me because of the words posted. I don’t like guns and I don’t like to see little girls posing with guns.
I am willing to admit that because of my past that I don’t see things the way that you do. They started the thread with sexy pictures of women and then have pictures of little girls. It just really leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Since I copied those two pictures of little girls holding guns, they have posted at least two more. I really have a problem with little girls holding guns.
I know people say guns don’t kill but people do. People have been killed because of guns. Lives have been ruin because of guns. I know people say they are for protection and that if one doesn’t get a gun they are crazy, but I just don’t like guns.
Why do they have to take pictures of their kids and guns? These are real guns. The second photo didn’t come through but that is a real gun with a knife at the end of that one. I just don’t think it is something I can ever find cute, but I find very disturbing.
Kids and guns are a deadly mix and accidents can happen. There have been a lot of accidents where kids have been shot accidently by another kid handling a gun. I would think there is an age limit on who can handle guns. I don’t have a problem if someone is over 18 and it is her choice to learn how to correctly use a gun or any weapon of her choice. I do have a problem with little girls being trained to use deadly force with guns and other weapons.
It just is leaving a very bad taste in my mouth seeing little girls posing with these real guns. I would rather see the little girls being taught to ride horses, play sports, and other things that don’t involve weapons training and posing with guns.
I am sorry, but those pictures really upset me, and to me it is a form of child abuse to expose your children to weapons training at such a young age. Why can’t they be little girls and allowed to be little girls who can play with their dolls and not have to worry about how aim to kill with their gun. People die because of guns.
I know we don’t agree and you have a right to your thoughts on this issue and at the same time I have a right to my thoughts on this issue as well.
I’m very pro-gun, and I think people should learn to use them as soon as they are able to hold them. It’s very important that girls learn to protect themselves. We can live in a La La Land where every girl will be safe because she has some Prince Charming to protect her, or, we can live in the real world, where there are real dangers and someone can’t have our back at all times.
I recall a story, a girl probably about the ages of the girls’ pics posted. She was babysitting, and someone who was stalking her family broke into her house. Because her parents had taught her to use their rifle, and how to get it from, and lock it up in the safe, she went for the rifle and shot the guy that broke in. I’d rather girls do that, than call 911, and by the time the police arrive, she would already be raped and murdered. It’s true that girls should ride horses and play sports too, but self-defense is everyone’s issue, everyone should be educated on it. I don’t think it makes girls any less girls, women any less women.
I have not, however, heard of any real-life incidents of gun accidents. Those stastitics usually are, for the most part, anti-gun propaganda. Just like there is anti-tobacco, anti-alcohol, anti-this and that, propoganda. More kids die in car accidents, from cancer, or being hit by cars while riding their bikes.
My friend,
This is going to be one of those issues where we have to agree to disagree on the issue. I respect your right to free thought as I know you respect mine. We just have to accept that on the gun issue we are not going to agree.
I know in AZ we have had a couple of cases where children have gotten a hold of their parents gun and killed someone else. Not to long ago we had an 8 year boy kill his father and his father’s friend with the dad’s gun. The debate for a long time was if it was an accident or if he did it on purporse. I don’t think it has gone to trial yet.
Now someone might say that the gun didn’t kill the father and the father’s friend, but the little boy did. True the gun is just a machine and it take a human to pull the trigger. Yet my question is if that little boy hadn’t gotten a hold of his dad’s gun would his father be alive. Another question I have is why would an 8 year old kill their dad? Maybe the kid got in trouble for not doing his chores and his dad punished him. I know all kids don’t like to be punished when they do something wrong and may have a moment of anger, but to actually take that anger and get a gun and then pull the trigger on your dad? He must of known where the dad kept his gun, and had easy access to it. If his dad had done what many responsible gun owners do and lock it and not allow the children to know he had a gun, he would still be alive.
I don’t want to take away your gun. I just want an age limit on who can be shooting guns. I don’t think children should be handling guns. They do not have the emotional maturity to understand that guns kill people and when someone is dead they are dead forever.
Here is a link to the story I was telling you about. It happen in Nov. I haven’t heard an update lately.
http://wcco.com/national/8.year.old.2.859839.html
8-Year-Old Arizona Boy Kills Father
Was it an accident? Was he abused and decided to kill his dad? Would he have killed his dad if he hadn’t had access to a gun?
Did he emotinally know that if he killed his dad that his dad would be dead and did he know what it really means for someone to be dead?
I just have a hard time accepting children being around and using guns.
Firearm safety is the key to preventing accidental gun related deaths. If guns kill people I suppose pencils misspell words. For those of you opposed to private ownership of handguns, the day may come when you’re looking for a neighbor with some common sense and a firearm to buddy up to and save your ass. The future isn’t looking too bright these days folks. I’m not a doomsday prophet but as you’ve heard it said before, “It’s better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it!” I might also add the 2nd Amendment is still in full effect.
Voice of Reason, it is not about being against the 2nd Ammendment; it is about not thinking it is sexy to show little girls with guns in sexy pictures. It is about not letting children play with guns or think that they are sexy because of the pictures taken with them and their guns..
While it is true that guns don’t kill people and that it is people who kill. If they didn’t have guns and someone wanted to kill you they would find another method to try. I understand the reasoning. Yet, we must have some gun control laws. We can’t just have everyone carrying their gun and have gun fights to settle disputes.
Your side fights more for the 2nd Ammendment and I fight more for the 1st ammendment.
I personally don’t own a gun. I would not take away an adult’s right to own a gun. I don’t think children should be allowed to own guns and should only be allowed around guns with adult supervision. If a father wants to take his son hunting than the father needs to take responsiblity for his son using a gun to hunt. I am not trying to take away a bonding experience between father and son that hunting is, but we have to be reasonable.
Hi Chrisy & Saturnia.
LOL if any of those women REALLY showed up at a WN event, the guys would have no clue how to approach them!
I always felt bad for the WN kids. They had no choice if they were going to be at rallies, their pictures put up all over the internet, having to deal with being ridiculed at school because their parents embarass them, etc. Back in my dark days, I would take care of this adorable little girl whose dad would just kind of leave her so he could drink etc. She’d just wander around and her dad didn’t even make sure she was safe! Of course, his “Comrades” would NEVER hurt his daughter. Yeah right. WN is one big rape culture. They like to pretend it doesn’t happen & that “the beauty of the aryan woman must not perish” crap and women are our future nonsense that they say is all hypocritical. How do I know? I was raped because I refused to wear a racist item at a rally I got tricked into attending. I thought he was going to kill me. He had someone guarding the freaking door. Remember that, ADL, next time you post pictures of women and try to expose their names and addresses. I still have nightmares about this.
I heard SF is trying to break into the Mainstream. Yeah ok. I can’t go there anymore without throwing up. Does anyone know how I can get my account deleted there?
Concerning 2A:
On Soapbox. I am very pro-2nd amendment and if you do have a firearm in the house, ALL living in the house must be able to use it and be taught to respect it. Children being irresponsible around firearms didn’t occur in the 1800s when families used firearms to hunt for food. A firearm is a tool and is not to be played with. The first lesson we were taught as kids was there’s no such thing as “I’m sorry” when a gun goes off (the 2nd was a firearm is always loaded). We also weren’t allowed to touch them unless my dad handed them to us. I still don’t touch his guns, even in my 30s! It’s about respect. I never met a firearms owner who was cavalier about letting his guns lay around – until I met WNs. Off Soapbox
“Back in my dark days, I would take care of this adorable little girl whose dad would just kind of leave her so he could drink etc. She’d just wander around and her dad didn’t even make sure she was safe! Of course, his “Comrades” would NEVER hurt his daughter. Yeah right. WN is one big rape culture. They like to pretend it doesn’t happen & that “the beauty of the aryan woman must not perish” crap and women are our future nonsense that they say is all hypocritical. How do I know? I was raped because I refused to wear a racist item at a rally I got tricked into attending. I thought he was going to kill me. He had someone guarding the freaking door. Remember that, ADL, next time you post pictures of women and try to expose their names and addresses. I still have nightmares about this.” ( Carrie Ann)
I am so sorry you were raped. I have been raped in my life too from the time I was 11 because I was an eary bloomer. You are so right about all the rapes that take place and no one wanting to talk about how women and girls are really treated. We are encouraged to keep silent and not speak about how in White Nationalism they have dirty old men who think and do things with little girls that they shouldn’t be doing. It is child abuse. My childhood was HELL because of dirty old men and young men who were told that boys will be boys and any sexual thought that they had regarding me at school was my fault because I the girl made them lust after me. I get angry because NOTHING has changed for girls who are either born into a household where one parent is a White Nationalist.
That little girl is in danger. She is alone and unprotected. I was alone and unprotected too as a little girl. Men who desire sex with little girls will target her because there will be no one who will stop him from doing what he wants to do with her. It might not happen until she starts developing into a woman, but one day she will be. If he is any kind of father, he needs to get himself straight and start being a real dad. He is not being a real dad by putting his little girl at risk for being sexually abused by one of his “buddies”. If he doesn’t want to start putting the little girl first than he should give up his rights as a parent and let someone adopt her that would be a good family. To take a child to a party of drunk young men and leave her alone she is easy pray. I believe that is child abuse.
You are right all their talk about family being first and race being second or family being 2nd and their race being first; is one big public face to try and bring people into the door. The truth is that they don’t value women or girls. They only value us for our wombs and how many children we can have to save the WHITE RACE. We are told, that as women it is our DUTY to have White babies to save our RACE from being destroyed. There is always and enemy who is trying to destroy the white race, so we need to have lots of babies being born.
” I heard SF is trying to break into the Mainstream. Yeah ok. I can’t go there anymore without throwing up. Does anyone know how I can get my account deleted there? ” (Carrie Ann)
Don Black used to warn people that what they post on SF is for the public record and can’t be deleted. I don’t know if they delete accounts after a while if people have posted in a while. Some forums clear out the inactive members every once in awhile. Just don’t post there anymore.
There is no erase button to push, so I have found in my own life to just be honest. I want to help others too. If people want to judge us for our past than they are the one who has the problem and not us. The important thing is that we are trying to do the right thing and if peole don’t understand than it is their probelm and not ours. I have always felt if someone didn’t take the time to get to know the real me in person than he wasn’t worthy of me or my friendship. What matters is if you use your knowledge you gain for good, than reasonable people will see the truth and not judge us.
” On Soapbox. I am very pro-2nd amendment and if you do have a firearm in the house, ALL living in the house must be able to use it and be taught to respect it. Children being irresponsible around firearms didn’t occur in the 1800s when families used firearms to hunt for food. A firearm is a tool and is not to be played with. The first lesson we were taught as kids was there’s no such thing as “I’m sorry” when a gun goes off (the 2nd was a firearm is always loaded). We also weren’t allowed to touch them unless my dad handed them to us. I still don’t touch his guns, even in my 30s! It’s about respect. I never met a firearms owner who was cavalier about letting his guns lay around – until I met WNs. Off Soapbox” (Carrie Ann)
I like to hear you on your soapbox. I tend to stand on one too, lol.
I understand and can respect your views. You and your dad are responsible gun owners. You know how to use a gun and when to use a gun. As you pointed out White Nationalists are not as responsible with their guns as your average American who likes to hunt and all the other uses for having a gun. I don’t want to take away anyone’s right to carry a firearm.
I do think that there has to be some common sense laws, like children can’t buy guns and can only use them under the supervison of their parent. Like if the family enjoys hunting, they can all go as a family and the children are being taught how to use and clean a gun.
Carrie Ann,
A few more thoughts came to me regarding SF.
You can log on and start posting in the opposing section until they get angry enough to ban you. Or you could use it as a way to explain how you feel about White Nationalism and do some healing.
I wish you a very bright and happy future. Yes, we have PTSD because of the trama we have been through, but we can overcome. We can still work to turn our goals into reality.
I am sorry you were raped by a WN man for refusing to wear a White Nationalist item. It doesn’t surprise me because of their views regarding women.
Perhaps you should pm a mod and ask for your account to be cancelled. I am offering this to assist as this discussion is not addressed to me directly. I have children too and would never brain wash my children into WN beliefs, there is always a time and a place for everything and childhood is certainly not one of them.
I am trying to be sensitive to this thread but I must point out that WN does not rape girls or women. Of course it is the men who cowardly to the extreme and vent their rage on women, the use of power is known to be behind most rapes and as stated this came to the fore. Men of different races and creeds commit these acts, irrespective of their politics. I will concede that some WN groups may seek to dominate women into a maternal and subservient role. I as a WN do not agree with these ideas and find it harmful to the cause and more importantly degrades the very women we seek to uplift as the ‘mothers’ of our race.
These men should be removed from society and simply executed as traitors to our race and cause, sadly though certain fringe WN groups promote the subjugation of women as an ideology.
Garfield,
” I am trying to be sensitive to this thread but I must point out that WN does not rape girls or women.” (Garfield said)
Of course you are right in saying it isn’t WN that rapes girls and women but the man. That statement is as true as guns don’t kill people but people are the ones that kill. Someone might say guns like White Nationalism are harmless, but some of the men who use both guns and hold White Nationalist beliefs are the ones behind evil acts.
You are right that not all White Nationalists believe that girls and women are property to be used as wombs to bring White babies into the world and that is our only duty as women. Women are taught that they are to be the good submissive little wife who does what she is told, when she is told and how she is told with no thought about her own needs. The only needs she is to think about as a woman is her husband and children.
I married into the FLDS version of White Nationalisn and I can tell you that it is not a happy life for a woman or girl. We are told we are not human beings but slaves to the man. We are his property for him to do with us as he wants done. Daughters will not choose their own husbands but will have to marry who she is told to marry. It doesn’t matter if the girl of lets say 18 is told to marry a 60 year old man and the girls doesn’t love him; if her father says he is the one she will marry than she must marry him or leave and never see her family again. As women we were told that we were under the headship of a man. If a daughter than we are under the headship of the father until he gives the daughter to a man to marry. Then she must obey her husband if not the husband has the right to punish her as he sees fit and not one person will defend her because in the WN church the men support the men and tell the women if she had obeyed than she wouldn’t be punished. It was you are in sin if you as a woman try to think for yourself or if you stand up for the truth.
I am not saying all White Nationalism is like Jeff’s CI/WN church. I am saying that rape is something that goes on all the time and no one wants to deal with the problem so that is why people don’t like talking about this topic. It has always been the same, keep silent and don’t say a word.
It isn’t only the CI/WN part of White Nationalism that has rapes. A friend I knew who went to the nordic gathering every Memorial day put on by the IKA and said there were two teen girls being raped in a chain gang by the WN men and no one said a word. Women were scared to defend the teen girls who were being raped one after another. Men who were there didn’t speak up because they wanted to see the girls being raped and enjoyed it. Seeing that happen to two teen girls opened her eyes as her children were there and she thought that could be her own daughter in a couple of years. She feels like she opened hell up for her children by allowing them to be around White Nationalist men who have so little regard for White Women that they pull a chain gang on two girls.
Garfield, do you have a daughter? How would you feel if that was your teen daughter and she attended a White Nationalist event promoted as a family event and your White Nationalists brothers who hosted the event allowed her to be raped by White Nationalist men who pulled a chain gang on her. Would you think your White Nationalist brothers of the IKA did a good job in protecting your daughter from rape?
Yet, no one wants to talk about the perverted White Nationalist men in your ranks who like Kevin Strom who was considered a leader posted pictures of the twins on child porn pictures and dreamed the whole time that he was having sex with them. White Nationalist dirty old men lust after young white girls. Some WN see nothing wrong with dirty old men making sexual statements about White teen girls.
I know what it is like to be a young girl and to be lusted over by dirty old men and young men who were not taught to respect girls, but who were encouraged to be boys while all the blame of the teachers, parents, etc was placed on me because after all I am the girl so it is my fault that boys in my class lusted over me once I started to bloom into woman hood. It didn’t matter that I was raped while walking to school one day by a fellow student. I couldn’t see his face but his shorts had the school name on it so I know he was a jock. Even after having a knife held to my throat, I was told when going for help that it was my fault and I deserved it. Back in the 60′s and 70′s when I was growing up there was no one who fought for and helped girls who were being sexually molested at school. If the person who raped you played sports and was part of winning games for the school than it was always the girls fault as the boy could do no wrong. I believe things have changed as I believe that one girl sued and won her case. She didn’t just go away quietly and allow the school to make her feel like she was the bad one while the boy who raped her was the good ole boy.
I sometimes think what happen to my fellow student who raped me the day? Did he grow up to be a man without a thought to anyone else in this world, because he grew up spoiled and treated like a king. He never had to pay for his crimes so he never learned that grabbing a girl into the bushes and holding a knife to her throat while he had his way with her was a crime of rape. How many other girls at that school did he rape? I wonder if the other girls who he raped were treated the same way as I was? No one cared enough to help me. To them I was the bad one, the problem child, and the one who is crazy insane; but yet the truth is that I am more in reality than a lot of people, I am sane, I am strong and brave thanks to my Catholic faith. I always felt the church was my safe place.
One of the problems that White Nationalists like you face Garfield, is the “big tent” of unity within White Nationalists. It doesn’t matter what kind of person they are, as long as they talk the talk you guys claim them as one of your own.
Instead of working for a fake unity, you need to seperate yourselves and make it clear that your brand of White Nationalism is not like theirs instead of trying to be one big tent of White Nationalists which you and I know is not real.
That is one of the problems that David Duke and Don Black are facing. They must know it is in their best interest to seperate themselves from many of the White Nationalists who say they support David’s run for Pres. in 2012. They are not stupid guys and know that us Progressives will bring up the past as we know you White Nationalists will bring up the past of the Progressive candidate running against him. David Duke has a lot going against him, but if he is smart he might just be able to ride that perfect storm to victory. So far with his lack of even caring about what is happening in the gulf of Mexico and his home state of LA, I think he doesn’t get it and doesn’t have what it takes to be President. David Duke doesn’t seem to have thr right stuff to be President.
The good thing that might come out of David Duke’s lack of heart and him not fighting for the people of LA and speaking out like James Carville is that hopefully the people in LA who voted him into political office will see through the lies and realize that David Duke has no real love for anyone or anyplace. I hope they will see that David Duke is like the pipe pipper that is leading them to hell.
Will White Nationalists have the courage to weed out all those who make people think you guys are a joke? So far, I haven’t seen anything to make me think that you guys have the answer for America or the world.
“Garfield, do you have a daughter? How would you feel if that was your teen daughter and she attended a White Nationalist event promoted as a family event and your White Nationalists brothers who hosted the event allowed her to be raped by White Nationalist men who pulled a chain gang on her. Would you think your White Nationalist brothers of the IKA did a good job in protecting your daughter from rape?”
Chrisy, yes I have a 5 yr old daughter and I can assure you that should that ever happen or be discussed to happen their will be blood on my hands. I would kill the man who touches my children, not even my own brothers pick up my daughter and sit her on their laps, there are some rules that are not negotiable and the safety of children is one of them.
I agree we WN need to take a stand to separate these rapists, the problem I see though is that these rape mentality are in fact those in positions of power and so it is very hard to usurp their power into common sense. Indeed we must rid ourselves of all religious ideology within the WN movement, the idea that sin is used to enforce rules is primitive and archaic. WN should be without a religious identity, faith should be second to the cause but you are correct that CI is just the reverse hence its perverse biblical views on race and religion. I reject them with the contempt they deserve, in fact I reject all religion that takes away from the WN cause. We are the white race and christianity is not a true European religion, I can still tolerate Odinism as it has its roots in our culture and their are no races of the jew or their judeo religion.
Garfield,
I am happy that your daughter is protected. The girls who are unprotected are the ones that are easy prey, because they know they can do anything they want and no one will care enough to stop them; or they will make it seem like the girl is lying and is just a crazy person who is making up stories so that no one will believe her and help her. Another tactic is to tell the girl that if she tells he will hurt her and her family. Maybe it is because my childhood/youth was miserable, but I tend to fight for girls today with the hope they will not have to be sexuallly molested and forced to have sex.
A very simple solution: We separate the United States in half at the Mississippi River.
You anti-gun, anti-Constitution, Pro-socialist nanny staters, and all other liberals and progressives get the entire eastern half to do with as you will and you can call yourselves the United Socialists of America.
Those of us who are pro-gun, pro-Constitution, Anti-socialist nanny staters, conservatives and Christians get the western half and we will retain our nation’s (Because we believe in it) name.
I figure it will take the United States about 10 years to dig itself out of it’s half of the Obama/Reid/Pelosi economic nightmare, while the United Socialists will continue down it’s road of spending other people’s money until they’re broke and owned by China.
The United States will retain its guns and freedom, while the United Socialists will not have their guns or money, but they will have the state running their lives.
We’ll all be happy.
” Those of us who are pro-gun, pro-Constitution, Anti-socialist nanny staters, conservatives and Christians get the western half and we will retain our nation’s (Because we believe in it) name.” (Ralph said)
Ralph, you seem to assume that Progressives can’t be Christian. That is a wrong assumption as I am Catholic which is still considered Christian inspite of many of you White Nationalists and Southern Baptist types believing the Pope is the Anti Christ and Catholics will burn in hell. Many Catholics are pro life, traditonal value Americans who helped build this country.
You seem to make a common mistake I see Progressives make, in that when they make a valid point about one Christian who has shown they are nuts that they lump all Christians together which is wrong, because we Catholics are Christian too and to lump us together is misleading and not the totally morally thing to do. Both sides need to be more spectific when they talk. Name the person or church but don’t make it seem like all Christians are to blame for the actions of that small group or person. Your side needs to not make it seem like all Christians agree with your views because we don’t!!!!!!! To generalize is a mistake that both sides are making and it has to stop or this nation will continue to hate each other more than we already do.
You White Nationalist types always talk about seperating into two nations. We fought the Civil War over that question. At that time the Union won. You dream of the day the South is going to rise again and this time fight to gain the victory and that you will finally have your Southern or as in your case Western nation.
I am not a Democrat but Green Party member. I didn’t vote for Obama because he didn’t earn my vote. He still hasn’t. I wanted him to succeed and be a good President because anyone who has connection to Hawaii wanted him to succeed. He went to the same school my nephew graduated from and so we want anyone who graduated there to do good in life. Yet, many Progressives do not think Obama has the right stuff to be President. Just what has happen in the last couple of days shows me he still doesn’t have what it takes to be President. There is still 2 years to go for him to gain my respect so that I will vote and support him in 2012, but the truth is that I think the best thing for the nation would be for him to step down for the good of the country and allow a real Progressive Democrat who is the kind of leader this country needs can run and win.
We need a warrior to fight and Obama is a diplomat for peace times. He doesn’t bring out the best in Americans but the worst in Americans. We are facing evil coming upon us from many directions and if we are going to overcome our enemies both foreign and domestic we need to be united as one nation. Obama can’t bring us together and I fear that if he has another term that we will face another Civil War and we will have Americans killing other Americans.
We are facing problems all over the world and yet, we have a President who doesn’t seem to understand what it means to be President. He doesn’t have the kind of experience needed for what the job requires now in our nation’s history. IF we were at peace time and weren’t in the Fight for life and death of this nation as a free, strong and brave nation than I would say Obama would be one of the better ones as he can give a good speech and I believe wants to be a good President. I just don’t think Obama is warrior enough to WIN.
So please don’t think all Progressives are pro Obama or that we are all Democrat. I am Green Party. We Progressives don’t like the debt either. Let’s be honest here. George W. Bush inherited a surplus from Bill Clinton and within his 8 years we had a huge defict. Obama has added and added to the spending by spending and spending and spending. Much of the spending he did was needed, but a lot of it was pork to get the votes he needed and that is wrong. We are spending ourselves into bankrupty and this is another thing I don’t think President Obama understands. I don’t want to accuse him of not caring that the United States is going bankrupt and that our days as a free nation are numbered because whoever owns our debt owns us.
The speaker of the House and Senate are no friends of Progressives. We think they are just as corrupted and part of the problem as Republicans.
Progressives like Conservatives come in all different shapes and sizes. I am a Classic Progressive like Teddy Roosevelt. Progressives are not all robots who have to agree on everything.
While you Conservatives and White Nationalists want your own seperate homeland within the United States, we Progressives want to see the United States continue as a strong, brave and free nation and be united in one union.
We know that the path we are on is leading us over a cliff and no one in Washington seems to care enough to FIGHT to save this nation from being destroyed. WE ARE DESTROYING OURSELVES and yet, it is the same ole same ole and nothing gets done to solve the problems. Yes, they pass Bills that are not really helping the problem because the pork that is in those Bills is only adding to the hugh defict and is making us weaker because of the hugh defict. Instead of only spending on what is needed, it is the same ole same ole of buying votes with spending for one’s state or district. Our system is so corrupted at this point, I don’t know if we can change things in time to stop what is coming down the pike from hitting us full speed ahead.
Both Democrats and Republicans are guilty of this corruption and until they prove they are able to governed in a responsible manner than I will continue to work hard to get Green Progressive Candidates elected and will not support Democrats or Republicans in 2010. My slogan will be ” VOTE GREEN IN 2010″
Do you Conservatives and White Nationalists have anything constructive to bring to the table? So far I have seen very little of what your plan is to change the course we are on. I see lots of hate directed toward Progressives, a lot of saying no, but what is your plan. When Republicans go on tv they can’t name one program that they would cut. If you want Progressives to listen to your side then you must come up with plans of your own and have the courage to present them and talk about them. If your side did that then maybe Progressives would be willing to take the best of both plans and come up with a Bill that is actually good for the country not filled with pork.
Yes, I am against children being allowed to own guns. You have a 14 year old WN boy who is being brainwashed to hate others and who thinks that the time has come to use guns to take this land back for Conservatives and White Nationalsits. He doesn’t believe in politics but guns. Is he a time bomb waiting to happen because WN hate groups are brainwashing his mind to hate and to think that guns are the answer? We boomers are aging and our youth is being sucked into White Nationalism.
Why do I care about this young man? I love and care about all children. I always wanted to be a good wife and mother. I can’t have children of my own and so I love all children and fight for them as they are my own. I prayed my rosary for this young boy, whose real name isn’t Ben I am sure, but God knows who Ben really is. Maybe he will read my blog and go and talk to his parents, or another family member like a grandparent, uncle or aunt. If he was raised Catholic/Christian maybe he would feel more comfortable talking to a priest who I know would guide him in the right direction and maybe help the family find a way to help this young man. I really hope so.
If a father likes to hunt and wants to take his son hunting than I have no problem as long as the father wants to take responsibiltiy for the actions of his son on the hunting trip. But to allow your children to have full access to your guns and ammo is dangerous not only to others but your children. If you are not willing to be a responsible gun owner than one shouldn’t be allowed to own guns.
“The United States will retain its guns and freedom, while the United Socialists will not have their guns or money, but they will have the state running their lives.”
What a bloody weird thing to say. Some people would be surprised at how many people in the Northeast are pro-gun. Hell, it’s easier in Vermont and in New Hampshire to get a gun than it was in Louisiana. There are plenty of guns in upstate NY to go around for everyone, too. You would think, considering all these forests we have to go hunting in.
Gotta love how people assume they know what it’s really like up here, lol. It usually comes from people who’ve never ventured this far up.
Ah well. Good luck in fulfilling the dream of separating the U.S. I’ve listened to many a dream in the past decade, dreams that haven’t even taken any baby steps. I’ll be more than happy to stay up here, with the seasons, gigantic forests and mountains, beautiful autumns, snow and blistering cold, gorgeous scenery, tons of social life…and my guns.
You make some very valid points. I love the Northeast too. They are good solid salt of the earth people from both New York and New England. Your right they just make assumptions without realizing that not all of New York or New England is like New York City or Boston. lol There is real country living outside the cities. A lot of people like me liked living outside the city so we could have our horses and animals, but still live close enough to go into the city for the ballet. I always dreamed of being able to go to NYC for the opening of the American Ballet Company. If I lived close enough to be active it is one group I would love support.
Liberals are the ones living in la la land
Both Progressive/Liberals and White Nationalists are living in la la land.
That is why I reject both of you. You both have hate in your hearts toward anyone who is different then you or thinks different than you, and you both twist truth to fit your beliefs even thought to do so means you push lies as truth. I found very little real honor within both camps.
Is there any real honor left in the world John? If you find it let me know where. Very few people value truth anymore. Without truth there is no honor.
Indeed honour and truth misplaced in our self centred, do everything world. I honour my family, I honour my race and by my sincerity and by me honour it, it is my truth!
No bleeding heart liberal, multicultural race mixer will ever remove me from the honour of family and blood.
Truth is relative, religious truth subjective but racial truth is absolute.
Gar.
Garfield, sorry for the delay in approving your post. Sometimes it goes to spam or I don’t see it right away.
I know you are a good husband and father and that you love your family and do what you think is best for them. It is also alright to be proud of your ethnic group and race. White Pride does not make one a White Nationalists, but is normal and should be encouraged. Black Pride should be encouraged. Hispanic or Asian pride too should be encouraged. All people should be encouraged to be proud of their heritage and culture. yet, we live in a world where every single race is encouraged to have pride in their race and ethnic groups but Whites.
There is very much a double standard in regards to how Whites are viewed and treated vs Non Whites. Just yesterday I posted a video from the Blaze, that says all Whites are racists and only Whites can be racist. yet, he is the one being racist by judging one group of people and putting every single White as being racist and full of hate, but who is the one really being racist and full of hate? Yet, Progressives will be silent on Racism directed toward WHITES. They don’t even understand that by their silence they are saying they approve of the RACISM AND HATE DIRECTED TOWARD WHITES. Saying the truth and being proud of one’s race and ethnic group does not make me a White Nationalist.
I am not a White Nationalist because they are full of hate, just like this Black Nationalist man is full of hate. Hate is from the evil one. I reject all hate. Love is the answer.
There are Blacks that are Conservative too, who are hated by their own race because they would dare to believe something different then the Progressive Democrat Black Nationalist message. They are called Uncle Tom’s and even worst. Yet, Progressives don’t see that as being racist against their own people, when Black Progrssive Democrats call them an Uncle Tom for being Republican. It is racist to think that all Blacks have to think 100% the same way, and if a Black is a conservative to send hate mail, and all the other nasty things Progressives do to Conservatives in this Country.
The Progressives LIE and say we hate Obama because he is BLACK, but that is not TRUE. I WILL TRY AND SPEAK REASON HERE. NOW IF WE CONSERVATIVES REALLY HATE OBAMA BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK, WOULD WE SUPPORT BLACK CONSERVATIVES LIKE ALAN WEST AND HERMAN CAIN?
We oppose Obama because of his policies, his weak leadership and lack of leadership, his lies, his corruption, his chicago style backroom politics, and not having any plan of his own. He demigods the issues so he can win re-election instead of being President. He lies and knows he is lying. He is a racist himself with some of the comments he has made about Whites. He lies about Republicans and they know they are lying, but don’t care. He has no honor, and I believe that someday, he will be judged by God. When we die, we all face our judgement and he too will face the judgment of God, and he will have to pay for every single lie he told and every single evil deed he did. Congress if looking into the gun running to Mexican drug lords. One of the guns was used on a AZ border patrol agent and he died. Holder lies too. It is coming out that Obama and Holder and others in Obama’s government are threatening wittnesses from telling the truth. What Obama is doing and has done is much worst then Nixon ever did. If it is proven that Obama is behind this gun running, then he must be impeached or forced to resign by Democrats, and Biden become President or challenge him and make sure there is a new Democrat running in 2012 against a new Republican candidate. We have both the far left and Conservatives who feel that for the good of the nation and for our nation’s survival that Obama must leave office as soon as possible.
Obama and his Administration is so disconnected from the American people. He is dividing this country with his racist attitude toward Republicans, Conservatives and Whites. he is also trying to create a class war on top of the racial war he is trying to start. He has no real love for this country or the American people, or he wouldn’t be lying, spewing his hate from his pulpit. he has no plan that is why he can’t produce one to the press or the people. The only plans are the ones by Republicans, that have been worked on with the help of Democrats in Congress. It is the Congress and the Republicans who have been the ones trying to solve the problem of our defict and not the President who has make things worst and harder. He has been the problem because he refuses to put forward his own plan. Obama must go.
Garfield, I know you are not interested in American politics, but I needed to vent. I will go through and approve your pending posts now.
God Bless you.
Chrisy