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 Tackling the gender issue in our movement.Sadly, many threads on this board get run off track by men blaming our race’s problems on our women. In the ladies forum, there is no shortage of finger pointing at the men. Each camp blames the other for the same things. Men blame miscegenation on women who run off with black men, women blame miscegenation on men who run off with Asian women. Women blame low birth rates on men who only care about sex rather than commitment, men blame low birth rates on women who only care about their careers and personal gratification.
Some belligerent male posters don’t care about running off women supporters of our movement because they think it’ll purify strength, but those who are rational among us know that our women are the keepers of our bloodline. For every woman who is interested in the future of our race and wanting to preserve the blood, the more hope our race has. I won’t mention irrational women posters, due to the fact women offend easily. The bottom line is we need to start a dialogue on how to assign mutual blame for each other’s short comings, rather than trying to make scapegoats or assume meritless arbitrary 50/50 blame. We also need to notice the correlation between issues that each thinks the other is responsible for and the alien influence of cultural Marxism in those areas. The more men and women that can get on the same page in this dialogue and start pulling in the same direction, the better off our cause will be for it. So first, perhaps, we should get the problems out there and then start on burying the hatchet in our movement. ——————————————- Being the OP, I guess I’ll lead off for the men in this thread. Here is where I’m coming from, I’m 24, unmarried, no kids and live in Marxist utopia Michigan. I’m not contributing to the perpetuation of our race. I must say that I’ve found that of the available women in my area, they are either; A. Horrified of the idea of being racially aware. B. Only care about their careers, their jobs, their hobbies and the man is only supposed to be another form of entertainment, where the idea of having children is highly offensive and foreign. C. Have been around the block way too many times to consider having children with. D. So fat and lazy that they ride around town on scooters because they cannot walk (no kidding, there are two in my town). Another thing I have noticed, is that many women talk the big talk about making lots of white babies, then after one or two decide they are done. I understand that I don’t understand what women go through having a child, but it is a problem none the less. __________________
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Yes, I have see my share of women bashing threads on SF and other White Nationalist boards. Now SF is trying to crack down on these idiots. We shall see.
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Re: Tackling the gender issue in our movement. I think society would run smoother if most of them just went back to staying at home.
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You got that right!!!!!
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Re: Tackling the gender issue in our movement. After seeing the same new girl get attacked for no reason in two separate threads my rude arrogant morons I’m starting to think that these idiots will be the downfall of white nationalism. Either they are closeted homosexuals who’s desire is to turn Stormfront into one giant sausage fest or they are angry immature kids with women issues who come here to rebel and look cool.
This is really pissing me off. Think of all the people who are getting scared off before they can learn anything. Their actions and manners reflect badly on the community as a whole. Fulfilling all the stereotypes. How hard is it to be polite, respectful and nice to the new member here! |
I too have seen that happen time and time again. For the most part women don’t want any part of a group of people who are not women friendly for the most part. The crackdown is a good idea, but my question is will it work? Actually for my own selfish reasons of wanting you White Nationalists to fail in gaining people and political power in this country, I hope that you do not succeed in getting the idiot posters to stop bashing women.
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I agree the rampant sexism here needs to stop and is a problem, however I’m sick of seeing comments like this. It takes a sperm and an egg to make a child, not just one or the other. Men and Women are equally important, neither one of them is solely responsible for the continuance of our race. Quote:
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I just want to address the last part of your comment. When I hear comments like this I think back about the Third Reich who also believed that those who were considered not smart enough to live were taken out and killed. First they were denied the chance to have families of their own and then they were destroyed.
Maybe you don’t care, that you sound just like a nazi when you make statement like that. You White Nationalists go to such lengths to hid your nazi views, but no matter how hard you try they still come out, because one can’t hide their true feelings forever.
Yes, to you nazi types those of us who have an 80 iq( which is low average) should be not allowed to marry or have families. Next you will want to have us killed with all the others who consider useless eaters. Just because someone doesn’t have a high iq doesn’t mean they don’t have value to society.
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Don’t even bring nature in to this. Humanity’s current disgusting state is due to our complete ignorance of the laws of nature and the fact we’ve used technology to circumvent it. Nature has a method of eugenics. You know, natural selection? The weak and stupid are meant to die, technology and liberalism prevent this. Being smart does not make you think you’re above manual labor. That’s a personality/attitude thing that has no correlation with intellect. And by the way, good job putting words in my mouth and twisting my posts into a non-existent personal attack on you because you disagree with me. __________________
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So you want the laws of nature to weed out the week and stupid in your view. What about the old? Do you want them weeded out too because they are not as strong as they were in their youth. What about children who are not able to take care of themselves shall they be weeded out too before they have a chance to grow into strong people who can take care of themselves.
You are cold hearted like many White Nationalists who I have seen over the years who have no compassion for others.
The person who you are getting in a flame war is is one of the few White Nationalists that I respect in the world. He has a good heart and I do respect him. He is a good man. I disagree with him politically, but he is one of the finest people I have ever met in the world. You have to understand the humor that he was trying to make. I think you are wrong.
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That’s a cultural problem. They’re taught to put careers before families and to make sure they can support a family before they have one. People with low IQs also seem to have a problem with being responsible, hence why they make less but out breed intelligent people. Quote:
You do know that 80 is the cut off point for retarded right? Most people with mild down’s syndrome have IQs of around 80. 120 is still pretty low, but it should be the cut off point. I have no idea why you’d make the assumption people with IQs of 120 would be the best parents, and I’m especially confused as to why you’d think that IQ has anything to do with physical fitness. Quote:
The problem today is a societal/cultural issue and not an intellectual one. First, most people aren’t as smart as they’re led to believe (otherwise, we wouldn’t need a WN movement; we’d have a WN country). Second, modern business isn’t run by people with high IQs, but high levels of testosterone that drive them to compete. Third, to address your question of “what’s missing?”, culture. People today have moronic values instilled into them by pop-culture (TV, magazines, trashy books, etc.) and a school system that is designed more to brainwash people than educate them. Quote:
Tell that to Tyrone and Shaniqua and their distant African cousins. Quote:
Don’t build bridges based on hypocrisy, especially when you think being sexist will end sexism on Stormfront. However, I do apologize for derailing your thread, I just realized I keep doing that and I need to stop. So if anyone wants to continue the IQ discussion, I’d be glad to do it in another thread or by PM. Unconquerable has an important topic that does need to be discussed and I apologize for shifting the focus of the conversation. __________________
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Yes, I know 80 is the cut off point. On my last Iq test I was 80 which is considere low average. I have had Iq tests where I am 79 and considere borderline. Yet to you I would be considered what was the word you use retard.
I would like to ask you Mr. high IQ, what have you accomplished in this world? What have you done that is so great that you can judge yourself to be better than someone who has an 80 IQ?
I have a good heart which is one thing I see lacking in you and most White Nationalists who look down on others who they consider less than human because they don’t have the high IQ that White Nationalists put so much stock in.
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OK, where to start on this one? Read his post again and take your time with the last paragraph, that is what he is implying, that women are here to make babies, and babies only! I for one do not, as an older women do not take kindly to that! And further more, I do not need a man to feel fulfilled, I have my children that I chose to have not becuase I needed to for a cause, which BTW it the wrong reason for bringing children into this awful world |
I agree it is a wrong reason to have children just so you bring lots of White babies into the White Nationalist Cause.
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AT the base level, that is your purpose in life. The purpose of a woman is to propagate her kind through her womb, and the purpose of a man is to fertilize women and to provide for and protect his own. That is the biological imperative of any specie, whether we like it or not. |
So what should happen to those men and women who for medical reasons can’t have children. Should they just be destroyed and killed like those of us who have an 80 IQ because we are borderline?
There is a lot that we can do, who you White Nationalist consider menatlly disabled.
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Re: Tackling the gender issue in our movement. It’s sad that the Battle of the Sexes continues since . . . every man who tries to explain why women should be dominated reverts to the biology argument . . . and in such a situation (raw survival) . . . women are rare jewels. Sure, cavemen abused them but they were stupid. Women are VERY VALUABLE as breeders – and theoretically if we get really Boy Scout about our survival attitude . . . Women are worth at least 3 men in a tough situation. That means that if the cave bear is charging – at least 3 male bodies are required to be placed between the valuable woman and the cave bear. Maybe MORE male bodies.
We haven’t really come to terms with our gender roles and many things regarding the sexes. We’re still the ancients when it comes to psychology. Look at the non existance of adolescent psychology. Teens are still required to act like adults but have none of the rights of adults . . . and the result is them doing drugs and other things as a means of rebelling against their subservient roles in what we laughingly call society. |
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Very valuable as breeders? |
Do you even realize how awful that statement is? As a woman I take offense to that. I am more than just a ‘brood mare’ as are all women. Would you make that statement to your mother?Still the battle of the sexes goes on.
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IQ is only one part of what makes a human being. Other things are strength, health, personality, physical appearance, etc., things that many high IQ people lack. |
I agree with you!!!
I found this post on the thread and decided to post it here.
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Re: Tackling the gender issue in our movement.
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The latant homosexuality of SF rears it’s ugly head once again.
Found these posts as well.
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women complain about getting raped but they go out dressed like hookers and get smashed on alcohol so they are open to any person assaulting them.
Maybe you didn’t mean it this way, but please, please, please let’s not tumble down the slippery slope of blaming women for getting raped. They have every right to complain, and then to expect the man to be locked up for ages, perhaps with a little chemical castration to boot.
Let us never justify rape,
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Thank you Cole for standing up to this man who blames women for being raped.
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Maybe you didn’t mean it this way, but please, please, please let’s not tumble down the slippery slope of blaming women for getting raped. They have every right to complain, and then to expect the man to be locked up for ages, perhaps with a little chemical castration to boot.
Let us never justify rape,
Cole
can you blame the guard dog if you jump into it’s yard.
there are plenty of men out there who see women as nothing but objects, why make it easy for them.
lust can take over logical reasoning
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So you blame the women for the actions of men. Men should have self-control and be able to control their lust if they are any kind of a real man.
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can you blame the guard dog if you jump into it’s yard.
there are plenty of men out there who see women as nothing but objects, why make it easy for them.
lust can take over logical reasoning
I think this is an imperfect and false analogy. We are supposed to hold ourselves to a higher standard than animals, and if a man can’t do it, then he is the failure that needs to be put down.
Furthermore, who’s jumping into whose yard? The whole world is the man’s yard, but not the woman’s? Additionally, many rapists stalk women in their own homes, neighborhoods, or territory.
Make no mistake, if a male-on-female rape occurs, it’s always unequivocally, categorically the man’s fault and never justified!
I’m making a point here in general, not just attacking you, so I mean nothing personal.
I do agree with you that many men see women as nothing but objects. I think that the problem is in those men, and should not be externalized to the women.
Now, I thank you for responding to me in a civil non-inflammatory manner,
Cole
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At least Cole seems to be a human being.
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I agree with your rebuttal.
However, there is an undeniable conflict in women who think there is a predator behind every tree but dress very provocatively.
I want to make clear that I am not justifying rape, I’m actually in favor of keeping capital punishment available for rape cases.
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So should we all wear burkas, incase some male can’t control his carnal urges?
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We women shouldn’t have to wear burkas as men should be able to have the self control to contain their lusts.
Sup, retard. This is Vinterblot, I found your blog when I googled my username because I was bored. I’d like to take a moment and clarify some of the things you’ve misunderstood (probably because you’re retarded).
“I just want to address the last part of your comment. When I hear comments like this I think back about the Third Reich who also believed that those who were considered not smart enough to live were taken out and killed. First they were denied the chance to have families of their own and then they were destroyed.”
That’s the point, dipshit. Stupid people should not be breeding. Preferably they’d never even be alive long enough to consider having families of their own.
“Maybe you don’t care, that you sound just like a nazi when you make statement like that. You White Nationalists go to such lengths to hid your nazi views, but no matter how hard you try they still come out, because one can’t hide their true feelings forever.”
Why the fuck would I care if someone thought I was a Nazi? It’s the most convenient label morons (like you) can put on me, and it’s fairly accurate. I’d say I’m more of an extremely racist fascist though. I don’t condone socialism of any kind, socialism is an idiotic, jewish philosophy.
“So you want the laws of nature to weed out the week and stupid in your view. What about the old? Do you want them weeded out too because they are not as strong as they were in their youth. What about children who are not able to take care of themselves shall they be weeded out too before they have a chance to grow into strong people who can take care of themselves.”
Yeah, I want old people dead, when their time comes. That’s how nature works, dumbass.
“You are cold hearted like many White Nationalists who I have seen over the years who have no compassion for others.”
No, you’re just too god damn stupid to understand. If humanity is constantly bogged down by losers, idiots, and degenerates all of us are going down with them, just look at the situation today (then again, a moron like yourself probably thinks the world is doing just fine at the moment). If you hate life (which you do, you’re just too stupid to realize it), you want everyone to be dragged down to your level, we all should be “equal”. If you love life, you realize you have to thin the herd to make things healthier for everyone and that no one is equal, and the lowest people on the totem pole are nothing more than parasites.
“I have had Iq tests where I am 79 and considere borderline. Yet to you I would be considered what was the word you use retard.”
So how hard is it to type when you’re constantly drooling, or distracted by a dog outside your window?
“I would like to ask you Mr. high IQ, what have you accomplished in this world? What have you done that is so great that you can judge yourself to be better than someone who has an 80 IQ?”
Yawn. Yet another Ad hominem from an anti-racist. Attack the argument, not the person, dipshit.
I posted your comments, Mr. White Nationalist. I feel really sorry for you. I pity you, because your hate is only hurting you and not me.
Your words don’t hurt me, Mr. White Nationalist. They don’t make me cry. They don’t make me scared of you. I laugh because you just prove the point that you and your ideas Mr. White Nationalists must never be allowed to ever hold the reigns of government in America.
Mr. White Nationalist says: “That’s the point, dipshit. Stupid people should not be breeding. Preferably they’d never even be alive long enough to consider having families of their own.”
Your statement there just makes my point Mr. White Nationalist that your message is one of hate. You guys can try and hide behind it is a message of love and not hate, but the truth always comes out and the truth is that you would want to kill Americans who do not mesaure up to the IQ test you would give to people.
IQ tests are not all that effective in judging the whole worth of a person. There are other factors that one must take into consideration that determine a person’s worth. Does one have a good heart, is one a fighter who doesn’t quit when the going gets tough, or is one a loyal and supportive friend in life? These are values that even those people who might not score as high someone like you Mr. White Nationalist, but because they have those qualities along with compassion it makes them a better person inside. I would rather be me who has an 80 iq than you Mr. White Nationalist who has a 120 Iq, because I have something that you will never have. I have a heart of Gold.
Mr. White Nationalist says ” Why the fuck would I care if someone thought I was a Nazi? It’s the most convenient label morons (like you) can put on me, and it’s fairly accurate. I’d say I’m more of an extremely racist fascist though. I don’t condone socialism of any kind, socialism is an idiotic, jewish philosophy. ”
Then you shouldn’t be mad at me for calling a spade a spade. You admit yourself that you are an extremely racist fascist. I will admit that we Liberals/Progressives use the term Nazi to decribe anyone of you boneheads who hold the extreme racist views that you hold. Maybe we tend to put you all in one tent. Yet, how would you have us seperate you all without first having talked to you as people to find out exactly which group of White Nationalist you fall into? What term would you like me to use in decribing you if you don’t like being called a nazi? Would you like being called Mr. Racist Fascist? White Nationalism is a broad term too, that refers to all of you who believe in an all White homeland, but within that tent you have Klan, Nazi, racial fascists like you. I stand by my statement that you words sound like what people heard from Nazi Germany. Just with your reply Mr. Racist Fascist you prove to me that I have a correct assumption about your views.
Mr. Racist Fascist says: No, you’re just too god damn stupid to understand. If humanity is constantly bogged down by losers, idiots, and degenerates all of us are going down with them, just look at the situation today (then again, a moron like yourself probably thinks the world is doing just fine at the moment). If you hate life (which you do, you’re just too stupid to realize it), you want everyone to be dragged down to your level, we all should be “equal”. If you love life, you realize you have to thin the herd to make things healthier for everyone and that no one is equal, and the lowest people on the totem pole are nothing more than parasites.”
If you read my journal more Mr. Racist Fascist you would see that I worry about the future of my country that unlike you I have a deep love for. Our Constitution has been ripped to shreads and the more the truth comes out about what was going on during the Bush years I know that my fears are not unfounded. I am angry that justice doesn’t mean anything in this country anymore that innocent men are facing prison time not because they broke any laws but because they supported the Democratic party and Karl Rove used the Justice system to put them in prision. I am angry that truth doesn’t mean anything anymore in this country, that instead of Congress finding out the truth and making sure the men who committed War Crimes of torture have to pay for their crimes have decided that they are going to let them get away with it. I am angry that greed has allowed our government to allow corporate America to rape our environment with mountaintop removal mining. I could go on and list other reasons that I am angry with the direction this country has been going in. I see America living in the dark ages and no one having the courage to stand up and tell the truth to the American people, to pick up the torch of the Great American heroes who walked before us and fight for the America that was founded on truth, justice, and freedom.
Yes, I believe in Equal Rights. You make it sound like a dirty word that I one woman believe that the Founding Fathers who founded this nation believed that all men were created equal. I also get angry when White Nationalists like you Mr. Racist Fascist twist American History to make it seem like my Ancestors who fought in the American Revolution and helped in the founding of this country are White Nationalists like you. That is a LIE!!!!!!!
Our Founding Fathers did not believe as you do, but Hitler and Nazi Germany did. That is who you strive to follow, because it sure isn’t the Founding Fathers or great American Heroes who walked before in our National History. President Lincoln sure didn’t believe what you belive MR. Racist Fascist. President Kennedy sure didn’t believe what you believe MR. Racist Fascist. My heroes would have wanted us to fight and stand up to people like you Mr. Racist Fascist. You hero AH would be proud that you are still preaching his message around the world.
A society is judged by how we treat the weakest among us. I know you don’t understand the concept of a civilizated society where we look out for all the members of our community. when we help others who need help they in turn will help other people who need help. Thank God there are still people in America who believe in the moral principles that this country was founded on. We may be fewer in numbers than we once were as your message of hate is spreading around the world, but I believe that there will come a time when good, honest and moral people will start to fight back and demand real change in America. That we will pick up that torch that was passed on to us and begin to fight to save America that many of us Americans still love with all our heart and soul. I know MR. Racist Fascist that you don’t understand real love and passion for America, because you want to destroy this country with your HATE.
MR. Racist Fascist says: “Yawn. Yet another Ad hominem from an anti-racist. Attack the argument, not the person, dipshit.”
Isn’t that calling the kettle black? You do nothing but attack. I just asked you a question. A question isn’t attacking someone Mr. Racist Fascist. I was trying to understand your reasoning so asking questions is what I do to help me understand you better.
I leave the judgement of who is attacking who, to the readers. I don’t think calling you MR. White Nationalist is an attack. I refuse to address the name that you gave yourself in your post. I wouldn’t be offended if you called me MISS Liberal/Progressive. So why are you offended at being called MR. White Nationalist? Is it because deep down inside you know that White Nationalism is wrong and you are ashamed of it?
Oh, I asked you another question, so now I can be accused of attacking a big strong man like you. I am not afraid of you. I am not afraid of any of you White Nationalists.