I know Jeff who was a CI pastor didn’t believe in Christmas either.
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The Antichrist Mass
Sermon notes of Pastor Mark Downey Christmas or Christ mass has no place in Christian Identity if we are to continue this movement of God to properly identify who’s who and what’s what. The universalist Catholic mass has no foundation to Christianity. Therefore, the interposition of Christ into the mass is unfounded. Catholicism has a greater affinity with Babylon than Christianity. If the historic Jesus never had any connection to the man made holy day, then the only conclusion that can be made is that it is “another Jesus” (II Cor. 11:14), a vicarious artificial fraud, which qualifies as an antichrist. The antichrist is not a singular future tense figure of the notorious Catholic-inspired Rapture theory, but rather a plurality of people in existence for the last 2000 years. The word ‘anti’ means “in place of” in the sense of usurpation. An antichrist is not just someone who rejects the Son of God, but actually replaces the Son with a substitute. In the beginning, the soul (flesh), thinking itself superior, usurped authority over the spirit (mentality). The carnal nature of man rules the heart, with the exception of Christians who have been trained to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit (motivations of God). You can take the real Jesus out of Christmas, but you can’t take Christmas out of the real antichrist. Christmas is calling good evil and evil good. My awakening about the true nature of Christmas came around 1980 after listening to sermons by the late Pastor Sheldon Emry on the subject. It is not my intent to rehash the myriad of trappings that Christmas conveys, such as: decorated trees, mistletoes, singing carols, gift exchanges, season’s greetings, cards, special foods, candies, gatherings, dinners, Yule logs, Santa Claus and “Chestnuts roasting on an open fire.” These are some of the sordid elements with an exorbitant amount of positive spin reinforced upon it every year from Madison Avenue without telling you about its dark side. It is my intent to prove to the racialist Christian, that Christmas plants the seeds of destroying the White race. I dare say that the month of December has become a focus for the secular world’s high holy day in which Christianity has been seduced to attach itself to. Christian Identity scholars have broken the façade that protects the impossibility of Christ being born at this time of the Winter Solstice. Isn’t it strange that the darkest day of the year with the least amount of light is arbitrarily chosen to represent our Savior, the Light of the world? Wouldn’t it make more sense to associate Christ with the Summer Solstice, having the most amount of light? What I would like to examine today is the perplexing question as to why anybody in the Christian Identity movement would willingly celebrate or observe this forced square peg into a round hole called Christmas, after a preponderance of biblical truth, logic and common sense speaks against it. When I first discovered the truth that Christmas is not Christian and tried to share the good news with friends and family, I got another wake up call as to just how ingrained it is in people’s minds. Is the peer pressure too great? Is it cognitive dissonance? Do our people just get swept away in the spirit of Christmas? Is this spirit in tandem with the Holy Spirit? And if so, is it only seasonal? Does the Bible tell us to, “Try the spirit whether they are of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world”? Are people programmed by the enemies of Christ to accept it without resistance? It’s like people are hypnotized and they need to be deprogrammed. It’s amazing that our movement does not have unity on this subject. It should be a no-brainer. In fact, we should be unanimous in our opposition to it for the blatant heresies it manifests. As our nation deteriorates before our very eyes, can you imagine, as part of our national repentance, which so many CI pulpits have called for, a Christian boycott of Christmas trees, wreaths, lights, cards, gifts, solemn assemblies, dinners, decorations ad nauseam and the blessings that would flow from it. That’s part of the problem, that our people don’t have the vision of life without Christmas. It reminds me of our Israelite ancestors in the wilderness whining about how much better it was in Egypt; all they had was this manna stuff from God and talk about some kind of promised land. Christmas is like taxes. There are those who openly advocate it (as if civilization would cease from operating without it) and those who reluctantly tolerate it as a necessary evil. And then there’s a few who want to abolish the tax system and replace it with God’s non-confiscatory economy. Christmas is taxing on our souls as we make decisions about what we believe and obey. Christmas has nothing whatsoever to do with obedience to God’s Word. There are simply no admonitions, decrees or biblical witnesses that pertain to the justification of Christmas. The sophistry that says the Bible doesn’t say we can’t celebrate Christmas is so lame, that the same argument could be made for Halloween, Kwanza or Martin Luther King’s birthday. However, there are biblical warnings against many of the principles and/or doctrines of Christmas, which masquerades in saintly righteousness, when in fact it is satanic self-righteousness. You cannot bring godliness to Christmas by being pious and glibly interjecting Jesus Christ into the sordid mess. An Identity Christmas is an oxymoron and we should not be suckers of the ACLU vs. Nativity scenes dialectics, because the synthesis is still December 25. When a jingle bell Christian says they love Jesus Christ every day of the year, but they especially love Him for being born on a particular day, doesn’t this say that their love for Christ is greater or lesser depending on the time? If they say no, then Christmas becomes irrelevant and nothing should change from their day to day walk with Christ. If they say yes, then they are putting greater emphasis on time than the person. The problem would remain the same if it were any of the other 364 days of the year. We can reconcile this problem by identifying the root cause of the controversy. What is the cause of Christmas? A deeper examination reveals that it is not the date itself per se, but rather the date of birth, which is commonly called a birthday. The real question then is to see what the Bible has to say about birthdays. Wouldn’t a reasonable person agree? Come, let us reason together… O come all ye faithful. Nothing is as universally celebrated as birthdays among all races. It truly is a multicultural thing. But does the God of segregation regard birthday parties as innocent fun or does God hate it? Everything you need to know about the true purpose of life is written in God’s Word. So what does God say about birthdays? Birthday celebrations are only mentioned in three separate passages and, in each case, something terrible happened. Joseph interpreted a dream of the Egyptian Pharaoh who celebrated his birthday by executing his chief baker at the party (Gen. 40:1-23). When Herod’s birthday was kept, the great servant of the Lord, John the Baptist, was beheaded at the party (Mt. 14:3-11). In the book of Job, his sons and daughters were most likely having a birthday party that didn’t have anything to do with God, which caused Job to worry that they may have sinned and indeed his children died in a wind storm (Job 1:4, 5, 6-13,18-19). The wind is God’s fury (Ezek. 13:13). Further proof that these birthday celebrations displeased God is found in Job 3, where Job cursed every aspect of the day of his birth. The loss of all his children, due to a birthday party, was a wake up call from God, that there is nothing especially good about ones date of birth. Consider, for a moment, the lesson to be learned from these accounts. They are the only birthday parties mentioned in the entire Bible. Absolute disaster occurred each time. If something was good or positive about birthday celebrations, you would think that God would have recorded at least one other account to put birthdays in a better light. There is no such account. For such prominent biblical characters as Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, King David, Mary, the 12 disciples and Paul, the Bible is silent on their exact dates of birth. All of God’s faithful servants, even the birth date of Jesus Christ goes unrecorded. But, some may object and say, “Didn’t the wise men bring birthday presents to the baby Jesus?” Is this what the Bible says? Absolutely not! They arrived well after His “birthday” and Mt. 2:11 refers to Jesus as a “young child” not a baby. This explains why the gifts brought to Him could not have been birthday presents. Instead, it was an ancient custom to present gifts when in the presence of a king. The wise men understood that they were in the presence of the King of Israel, the fulfilled prophetic Messiah. There is no prophecy regarding the date of birth of Jesus or a celebration of the date thereof. The next important point to appreciate, as a faithful Christian, is the hard fact that nowhere in the Bible can you find examples of Christ’s disciples or anybody in the New Testament church celebrating His birthday. NOWHERE. Jesus warned us about misguided Christians saying, “This people honors [celebrates] Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. Howbeit in vain do they worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men” (Mark 7:6-8). Thus far, we’ve established that the Bible records only negative examples of birthday celebrations and is completely silent on identifying the date of births of any and all biblical figures, including the Messiah. Most people are of the persuasion that their date of birth is special and deserves extra attention. And yet Solomon was inspired to write, “The day of death [is better] than the day of one’s birth” Eccl. 7:1. Likewise, Jeremiah had little esteem for birthdays saying, “Cursed be the day wherein I was born; let not the day wherein my mother bare me be blessed” (Jer. 20:14). These two witnesses are not exactly a glowing report endorsing birthdays and hence the birth day of Christ (whenever it may have been) is not biblically sanctioned. God’s Word says the birth date is far from being a special day, let alone a special season. According to Scripture, it is not a time to express joy, song, mirth, and expect an exchange of salutations and gifts, simply because one is born into the world on a specific date. Life is a physical, temporary existence. The Bible likens it to a vapor, “That appears for a little time, and then vanishes away” (James 4:14). Compared to God’s promise of eternal life, a birthday is like a blink in the cosmos of light-years. Should we ignore this divine perspective? God forbid. When compared to the awesome future God has in store for us, becoming immortal in our glorified bodies, celebrating one’s physical birthday seems ridiculous and trivial. To the contrary then, it becomes quite understandable how mongrels and subhumans regard their date of birth as something significant, being that the resurrection is not appropriated to them in God’s Plan for the Ages. Can you tell me where birthday celebrations come from; being that the Bible does not recognize it as something to be done? The astonishing answer is from the pagan practice of astrology, which the Bible does have something to say about it not being done. “If there be found among you… man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness… and hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded… then shalt thou bring them forth… and shalt stone them with stones, til they die” Deut. 17:2, 3, 5. In ancient times, those who were not God’s people looked unto the night sky, not beholding the awesome wonder of God’s Creation, and charted the movements of stars and invented calendars in conflict with God’s calendar and then calculated the date of birth to their client’s destiny upon the earth (to the exclusion of God’s omnipotence). These ancient pagan astrologers put their trust in horoscopes instead of God. Jesus Christ was not a mere man to be exploited by pagans masquerading as Christians to be superimposed upon their astrological template in order to chart an expedient political horoscope. December 25 is the Winter Solstice from which most permutations of historical pagan deities emanate, both before and after the time of Christ. It is hardly the eminent domain of the negro Nimrod. I made the point at the beginning of this message, that the historic Jesus never had any connection to being born on the Winter Solstice. Furthermore, the arbitrary placement of Christ on this date in particular is a violent assault upon the doctrine of His pre-existence, which attests to His deity. The Alpha and Omega of Christ suggests an unlimited expanse of time. If Jesus is God, the Word made flesh, why would any Christian limit His omnipresence, as the Almighty Creator of the universe, to a blasphemous date on man’s calendar, denoting a mere 33 years i.e. a drop in the bucket (or ocean) of an everlasting forever existing God. What unmitigated gall and audacity for mortals to do such a thing. The reason for the season is “another Jesus” for an antichrist mass. Did not our Lord say, “Many shall come in My name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many”? Yes He did and He said, “Take heed, that no man deceive you” Mt. 24:4-5. It’s not just a few Christians who will pay lip service and worship the Christmas Jesus in vain, but many. How many is many? It’s most. Most Christians will succumb to the antichrist spirit of Christmas and honor the fictional Christ with their lips, but God says, “Their heart is far from Me.” “There is one lawgiver” James 4:12. I want the ho ho ho Christian to tell me what gives them the right to suggest a commandment of man. The 4th commandment is to, “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy” (Ex. 20:8) and we obey this command thusly, “Thou shalt not do any work” (v. 10); it’s a day of rest. Do most Christians work on Christmas? No? Is it a holy day… otherwise known as a holiday? Do Christians remember Christmas as the birthday of Jesus to keep it holy? If they do, they have unwittingly made it an unauthorized Sabbath. They have added a law to the Word. Jesus had something to say about man made laws. He indicted the Pharisees of, “Making the Word of God of none effect through tradition… and many like such things” (Mark 7:13). Here’s the warning: “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ” Col. 2:8. The word ‘rudiment’ is in reference to paganism. Christmas is a pagan tradition. The name was changed to protect the guilty. It was formerly known, before the time of Christ, as “The way of the heathen” and the prophet Jeremiah told his kinsmen, do not learn their ways (Jer. 10:2) as they try to interpret ‘The signs of heaven” i.e. the stars in the sky. Here also we read about the rudimentary Christmas tree, where the pagans would, “Cut a tree out of the forest… and deck it with silver and gold” (Jer. 10:3-4). We just can’t avoid the uncanny similarity to the modern greenery of trees and wreaths, which God references as “Every green tree” and “Their groves” in at least 10 OT verses, which were always associated with idolatry. “Abstain from all appearance of evil” (I Thes. 5:22) is not just a good suggestion, it is God’s Word/Law. Christmas requires a herd mentality. We are called the “lost sheep” for a good reason. We turn every which way, away from the good Shepherd. Do we hate what God hates or “for fear of the jews”, none dare call it an antichrist mass? ‘I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies… take away from Me the noise of thy songs, for I will not hear the melody” Amos 5:21, 23. No matter how much you try to make the ambiance of Christmas sweet with fragrance, to God it stinks. “Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto Me; the new moons [months] and Sabbaths… your appointed feasts My soul hateth; they are a trouble” Is. 1:13-14. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and it counts for nothing. If it is your intent to anger God, as a juvenile delinquent infuriates a parent, then keep in mind II Chron. 19:2, “If you should help the ungodly and love them that hate the Lord, then wrath shall be upon you.” The ungodly hated Jesus so much that they incorporated Him into another religious holy day. Hypothetically, let’s say you were there at the time. Would you have gone along to get along with the transition? If you were a faithful Christian, you probably would have been an indignant protestor. Why then, do people rationalize Christmas today as Christian? The modern term for merging false pagan customs with the worship of the true God is called syncretism. Anyone who did this in ancient Israel was put to death (Lev. 18:21, 29). It was that serious. It’s also a misconception to think that the latter replaced the former. It did not. After the culmination of successive prophetic beast empires, those who have eyes can see that their holiday (pagan) has never been more popular. In these last days of Mystery Babylon, ‘them that hate the Lord’ are dropping the pretense of appeasement and phasing out the Christian aspects of their holiday. They must be in uproarious laughter watching the Christians, who have been deceived for so long, defending something that God never ordained or blessed, but opposed with divine wrath. We need not prove the amalgamation of the pagan Saturnalia with the antichrist Roman Catholic Church hundreds of years after the birth of Christ. History is replete with all the evidence one needs for a conviction. By 529 AD apostate Christianity had become the official state religion of the Roman Empire and Justinian proclaimed Christmas a civic holiday. Origen, an early Catholic writer, admitted, “In the Scripture, no one is recorded to have kept a feast or held a great banquet on his birthday, it is only sinners who make great rejoicings over the day in which they were born into this world.” The Encyclopedia Americana adds, “Christmas was not observed in the first centuries of the church… In the fifth century, the Western church ordered the feast to be celebrated forever on the day of the Mithraic rites of the birth of the sun and at the close of the Saturnalia, as no certain knowledge of the day of Christ’s birth existed.” A lot of the Mithra beliefs have been infused into the modern judeo-Christian corporations. It is utterly amazing how much Baal worship permeates the plethora of denominations in direct opposition to God’s Law: “What thing soever I command you, observe to do it; you shall not add thereto, nor diminish from it” (Deut. 12:32). These are God’s plain words telling Israel that they cannot mix the horrible customs of outright paganism with the supposed ‘focus on the family’ of Christian believers. Daniel talks of a “little horn”, which “Shall speak great words against the Most High and shall wear out the saints… and think to change times and laws” (Daniel 7:8, 25). This little horn is a great religious authority that tries to superimpose its own perspective of dates on the calendar and celebrations thereof. Can we identify Christmas as an example of how this prophecy has come to pass? If God does not change; if God does not lie; and if God keeps His covenants, then we should not try to mold God into our own image; we should not lie about Christmas; and we should honor the conditions and promises that God bestowed upon His Israel people, the White race. There is no mistaking the origin of Christmas, in spite of the plastic Nativity scenes in front of fire stations. In 1990, the Solon, Ohio school board banned all Nativity and other Christmas scenes on any school property, because they felt it violated the separation of church and state. They were challenged in court when outraged parents opposed them, feeling that Christmas was being stolen from their children and the community. The board lost the case! The citizenry had contended that Christmas was a worldwide tradition that was not part of, and transcended, religion. It was deemed to be secular, being part of virtually every culture and race worldwide. The court decision affirmed that Christmas has no Christian roots! And they would be right. I can hear the New World Order choir singing, “We are the world… It’s the most wonderful time of the year.” Barf bag anyone? What’s going to happen to the Christmas keeper at the Second Coming of Christ when He tells them they were wrong? Oops, we’re sorry. Well, don’t hold your breath if you’re sucking down an egg nog. Judgment is not something that is postponed until Judgment Day. Look around and smell the coffee. The merchants of the earth are dependant upon the Babylonian commercialization of December for 60% of their annual retail sales. Christmas is perfect for the schizophrenic jew who hates Jesus Christ, but loves making merchandise of God and big profits. December leads the entire year in over-extended credit cards, debt, materialism, drunkenness, DUI’s, promiscuity, loneliness, jealousy, covetousness, domestic disturbance calls, depression, suicides, revelry, antichrist propaganda, home fires, pick-pockets etc. In general, it is a time for the spirit of ungodliness. It’s the most wonderful time of the year… for demonic perversion. But, perhaps it’ designed that way to keep our people chained to ecclesiastical politicians and slaves to the Talmudic establishment. How ironic for preachers who can identify modern Babylon, but poo poo the idea that a cabal of Nimrod knockoffs is the real reason for the season. It’s not enough to exhort our Christian Identity brethren to drop the Christmas habit. It must be purged from their hearts and minds so that they willingly and finally understand the gravity of this collective transgression. The Puritans of New England understood how wrong Christmas was and banned its observance by law in 1659. Throughout the Massachusetts Bay Colony, fines and imprisonment could result from being found keeping it. It was almost 200 years later in 1856 Boston where people stopped working on Christmas. I know it’s hard to dismiss family obligations when the sugar coated pressure is on for us to find time to show our love and appreciation for those who are close to us. But, Christ refers to His church-ecclesia as a “little flock” (Luke 12:32) not the ‘safety in numbers’ of the “many” in churchianity. There will be those who after reading this message still won’t get it and find nothing wrong about Christmas, the antichrist mass. In fact, they may even attack me for making a big deal about it and just making it more confusing for people who already face greater problems. Maybe people have their problems because of their own self-inflicted babel and do not want to obey God. That is the sad reality today. Many speak of putting Christ back into Christmas, but the true Christ was never really there. The real meaning and purpose of Christmas is to curse the White race. Their dreaming of a white Christmas is our nightmare of sheep being accounted for slaughter. In the past I thought it was a waste of time and futile to reach the hapless brainwashed victims of holiday mind control. But Pastor Sheldon Emry helped me see the dangers wrought in the Christmas madness. The times are even more dire now than back then, with a negro president, swarms of illegal aliens, hundreds of billions for the bankers, Baal-outs for multinational corporations, rampant corruption and moral decay, massive unemployment, unrestrained wars shedding innocent blood, oppressive legislation, record bankruptcies and foreclosures, devastating weather, poverty, homelessness and on and on and on it goes. Well, guess what? The party is over for God fearing Christians. The truth shall make us free from strong delusions. The spirit of Christmas is not of God. Our nation is coming under a heavy dose of divine judgment. We had better make a big deal about what the cause of God’s wrath is and care enough to do something about it. The cause and effect between the golden calf of Christmas and the persecution of true Israel is just as important now as it was in ancient times. “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, come out of her, My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues” Rev. 18:4. |

I think Pastor Mark Downey has some very bad misconceptions about the Catholic Church. It doesn’t surprise me though as most CI Protestants do not understand what we Catholics really believe and practice.
I have sat in Southern Baptist churches and heard Pastors say that Catholics were not saved and were going to hell not heaven, that the Pope was the anti-christ, and that we Catholics were responsible for all the evil in the world. I would hope that Protestants don’t preach that kind of trash in 2008, but reading this article by a CI Pastor I would say that there is still alot of untruths being told Protestants about the Catholic Church and what we believe.
This whole post is quite frankly moronic. With a lot of half-truths and lies, i seriously couldn’t finish reading that b/c of all the inaccuracies, and flawed theology, my goodness! Reminds me of of the Visions of
Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich on Christs own Agony in which he beheld these false sects and denomination:
“The soul of Jesus beheld all the future sufferings of his Apostles, disciples, and friends; after which he saw the primitive Church, numbering but few souls in her fold at first, and then in proportion as her numbers increased, disturbed by heresies and schisms breaking out among her children….”
“…even to the end of the world-every species of error, deception, mad fanaticism, obstinacy, and malice–were displayed before his eyes, and he beheld, as it were floating before him, all the apostates, heresiarchs, and pretended reformers, who deceive men by an appearance of sanctity. The corrupters and the corrupted of all ages outraged and tormented him for not having been crucified after their fashion, or for not having suffered precisely as they settled or imagined he should have done. They vied with each other in tearing the seamless robe of his Church; many ill-treated, insulted, and denied him, and many turned contemptuously away, shaking their heads at him, avoiding his compassionate embrace, and hurrying on to the abyss where they were finally swallowed up. He saw countless numbers of other men who did not dare openly to deny him, but who passed on in disgust at the sight of the wounds of his Church, as the Levite passed by the poor man who had fallen among robbers. Like unto cowardly and faithless children, who desert their mother in the middle of the night, at the sight of the thieves and robbers to whom their negligence or their malice has opened the door, they fled from his wounded Spouse. He beheld all these men, sometimes separated from the True Vine, and taking their rest amid the wild fruit trees, sometimes like lost sheep, left to the mercy of the wolves, led by base hirelings into bad pasturages, and refusing to enter the fold of the Good Shepherd who gave his life for his sheep. They were wandering homeless in the desert in the midst of the sand blown about by the wind, and were obstinately determined not to see his City placed upon a hill, which could not be hidden, the House of his Spouse, his Church built upon a rock, and with which he had promised to remain to the end of ages. They built upon the sand wretched tenements, which they were continually pulling down and rebuilding, but in which there was neither altar nor sacrifice; they had weathercocks on their roofs, and their doctrines changed with the wind, consequently they were for ever in opposition one with the other.”
Are familiar with her writings?
When i say “this whole post” i mean the post by “kludd.” i need to start proofreading my own typings
Dear Friend, I am not familiar with her writings.
Thank you for posting them here. We as Catholics have got to expose the light on the darkness of lies that is being told about our church.
It is really sad to me that people are going to read the orginal article by Pastor Downey and think he is speaking Biblical truth. They are going to believe all that untruth about Catholics and our church and what our church teaches.
Yes, they can quote verses. Jeff used to be able to quote verses too. He went to Baptist Seminary and was a Baptist Pastor before he became CI. He could quote scripture with the best of them, but the thing that they don’t realize is that they are twisting scripture to fit their narrow beliefs instead of allowing the Holy Spirit to show them the different meanings of the verses in the Bible.
I guess I was lucky I had a good solid foundation and was able to see through the crap that CI/White Nationalism is. I went to Convent school for awhile in CA and the nuns gave me a good foundation. I could never fully believe their message. Maybe that is why I could never allow Jeff to rebaptize me. The Holy Spirit inside of me spoke to me and said do not let him Baptize you and so while we are in the river I stopped the Baptizm right in the middle of it. I think that was another day I made Jeff really mad at me for embrarrising him like that in front of his church, but as a Catholic and a Christian I am going to listen when the Holy Spirt or that little voice who speaks to us to show us right from wrong. I was already Baptized and confirmed in the Catholic Church and I just knew deep within my soul that I could not let Jeff baptize me.
Good to hear, all the more important for catholics, to baptise their kids as soon a possible, and get them prepared for confirmation as soon as they can reason. I think that increases the odds that the kid will come back to truth after sometime. I’m lucky in the sense that i couldn’t figure out why my mom kept “bugging” me to do my confirmation. I seriously just did, just to get it over with and so she could stop “nagging” me about it. When i’d learnt the significance of it, i asked a priest, and he explained to me that no matter your state of mind during your confirmation its something that can be taken away, no need to redo it, just live the life that God would want you to from then on. God works in mysterious ways.
Correction: Confirmation is something that CANNOT be taken away, gosh i’m going nuts. PROOFREAD, PROOFREAD, PROOFREAD, PROOFREAD, PROOFREAD, PROOFREAD…..get it in your thick skull
Yes, God does work in mysterious ways.
My confirmation day was one of the happiest days of my life. My best friend Nanette and I were confirmed together at St. Christopher’s. A dear sweet nun was my sponser. I really loved her as a dear lady. She was one of the nuns I got close to. I think the priest is right, that it is something that can’t ever be taken away from us.
” The Puritans of New England understood how wrong Christmas was and banned its observance by law in 1659. Throughout the Massachusetts Bay Colony, fines and imprisonment could result from being found keeping it. ”
Jeff had this printed out and gave people copies of this. He tried to do his bit in getting the word out that “real Christians” don’t celebrate Christmas.
I have a story about Jeff and I going to one Mayflower meeting in Oregon. I was in the Mayflower back then. Edward Fuller was the ancestor I went in on. That was one group that Jeff approved of. I think he expected it to be a prayer group or something. Anyway, we go to the lunchen and during the middle of it he goes to the car after just getting up and leaving. I get out to the car and he tells me that we have really gone downhill and how we don’t live the way our Ancestors did. He was disappointed in us. Their ancestors had changed and had joined the 20th century or now the 21st century.
They love to quote our ancestors and hold them up as example of Christian purity, but the truth is on the Mayflower there were other people on that ship that weren’t religious. There were people who were just average people. I know Samuel Fuller was a doctor who settled on Cape Cod. They built Massachusetts, but I don’t know how deeply religious Samuel Fuller was or the other Fullers who survived. Edward Fuller and his wife died the first Winter and Samuel raised their son.
Anyway, that part of Pastor Downey’s article reminded me of that one time I took Jeff to a mayflower meeting and he embrarssed me by just getting up and walking out during the middle of the meeting because we weren’t the prayer meeting he expected. I can laugh about that now, but I did leave the Mayflower because of that. I was to ashamed to ever face those people again.
Dear Friend,
Don’t worry about the typo’s we all make them. I make mistakes all the time, lol.
God Bless
Chrisy
Yet another reason CI/WN will always be marginalised.
Thanks, Chrisy, Keep sharing your stories, very interesting stuff.