Chrisy58’s Weblog

We do intend to win. Your own comments voice much of why we must win or secure or own country. Something most do not realize is when the founders said ‘All Men are created equal’ they were only talking about the white race. Most of us in the WN movement do not look down on other races. We see the difference within the races and respond to it. Let me make a suggestion that might give you some insight into why we believe what we do. Pick up a copy of ‘defensive racism’ by Edgar Steele.

“We do intend to win.”

How, through posting on forums, writing articles, making Youtube vids, radio shows, libraries, woman-bashing, waiting for a leader, etc.? You’d think with the years this movement has been in existence, it would have made a little progress. But, it hasn’t even made a baby step forward.

“Most of us in the WN movement do not look down on other races.”

Of course not, there are some closet race-mixers in the WN movement. Most in the movement don’t hate other races, that’s true; rather, you reserve that hatred for each other. I’ll admit to not being any better in that regard, but at least I do admit it.

“If it was only White men than America wouldn’t have been a country founded on freedom because it wouldn’t be a free society of people if only the White man was considered to have any rights.”

White Nationalism is more about men, and the only place for women is to support that ideal.

Pres. Bush and neocons are NOT right wing and sure as hell not with us White nationalist. We will win too, reality dictates it. Multiculturalism is SHIT, based on emotions of pseudo guilt from self righteous stupid self hating whites, and pure white hatred by “minorities.”

Ah…Old MacDonald, you had best return to your farm…

Let’s critique this nonsensical post:

“Pres. Bush and neocons are NOT right wing and sure as hell not with us White nationalist. ”

Actually Bush and the neocons are by definition right wing. The fact that some neo-cons tend to be socially liberal is irrelevant. And while you WNs claim you were not with Bush, even Don Black endorsed Bush TWICE, in 2000 and 2004. He and Duke also protested against the Florida recount in 2000, I suggest you look that up. See, from a republican perspective, you WNs are for all practical purposes, on their side. While you disagree on a few issues, many of your views are the same, or at least derived from the same source. This is why it is common to see WNs posting articles by Ann Coulter or Michelle Malkin- as long as it agrees with their view on a certain issues, WNs tend to line up behind it.

“We will win too, reality dictates it.”

Really? Reality dicates that you guys have been organizing for over 50 years now, losing all the way, with your numbers getting smaller and smaller. Your leaders are at worst crooks and womanizers, and at best- parasites. Most of your organizations have 50 people or less, and they usually can’t even run a simple mail-order business properly. These are the same people who are going to seize political power in the US? Sure.

” Multiculturalism is SHIT, ”

How exactly do you define multiculturalism? If I asked most WNs, they would probably whine about Black History month, Martin Luther King Day, Cinco de Mayo, Asian studies deparments, AKA stuff that doesn’t affect you negatively in any way, shape, or form. What they will inevitably leave out is St. Paddy’s Day, Polish and Serbian churches and community centers, Slavic cultural clubs, Oktoberfest- in other words, European multiculturalism. See as it turns out “white” people aren’t as persecuted as you folks like to claim. All the “European” traditions you so hilariously try to emulate at your folk festivals constitute…DRUMROLL…..MULTICULTURALISM.

“based on emotions of pseudo guilt from self righteous stupid self hating whites,”

Self-hating? Why don’t you take a look at Russian neo-Nazis on SF praising Hitler, or perhaps the view WNs have of most white women. Your movement sees the majority of your own “people” as mindless, worthless lemmings. Dr. Pierce openly believed that most of the white race was corrupt and hopeless, fit to be wiped out. So who is self-hating again?

” and pure white hatred by “minorities.”

LOL WUT

LOL at Aslan the Alkie Uzbek’s post. He says “critique this non-sensical post.” So I’ll critique his.

“I just watched a bit of that video, about as much as I could stand. It is so nonsensical I don’t even know where to begin. First off, the part about “America is erroding”. Well that is very interesting because America experienced massive economic growth after WWII, including during the Great Society, intergration, bussing, etc. I believe that growth peaked around the 90s IIRC. As we can see, the current economic crisis had nothing to do with intergration, interracial marriage, or any nonsense like that. These things simply do not constitute the axis upon which the world turns.”

This is what’s called a post hoc fallacy by logicians. “Economic growth occurred after this, therefore because of this.” Classic liberal non-logic. You’d have to demonstrate a clear causal relationship between liberalization and economic growth convincingly and with evidence for your statement to be remotely on the right track.

The economy grew after World War II as a consequence of the energy left over from the “Allied victory.” Guess who was doing all the productive work at the time, and paying all the taxes to fund Lyndon Chaim Johnson’s social programs? Then, as now, it was White people. You can’t even be honest.

Integration is certainly a root cause of this problem and it would be easy for me to disprove your argument from a dozen different angles. But why waste my time? You have no intellectual honesty yourself, as I will continue to prove:

“Next was this interesting quote that America could not have achieved greatness without the “genetic endowment” of the white race. Well there’s an interesting concept. One might wonder why then was the Russian empire such an utter failure in 1917, given it’s “endowment” plus vast resources.”

Your anti-White hatred becomes apparent. And now your illogical argument takes the form of a poor analogy: poorly placed and thought-out. Also, your clear implication is that Russians “weren’t good enough” genetically. It never occurs to you to blame the corrupt Tsar. Or the World War I. Or America’s helping Japan to destroy the Russian navy in 1905. Or the parasitic influence of the Judeo-Marxists in every corner of Russia. All of these are pertinent facts. And all of them you ignore.

The Russian “Untermenschen” had scientists that put the first man in space. Yeah, those guys had no “genetic endowment” whatsoever. Whatever you say.

But I won’t blame you for your ignorant nonsense; your lack of “genetic endowment” is likely to blame.

“Likewise, what happened to the genetic endowment of the Byzantine Empire that caused them to lose the Levant so quickly to the Arabs, who shortly before had been an ununited, obscure, backward tribal people prior to the advent of Islam.”

Again with your erroneous histori-blather. Yada yada yada. Empires rise and fall. Byzantines were plagued by bad leadership and betrayal from Europe. Those were disunited times.

Byzantium existed as part of a world power from the times of the Roman republic until 1453. No non-White nation has ever lasted that long.

“Or what failure of their genetic endowment allowed the Seljuks, previously nomadic steppe-dwellers, to crush them so easily at Manzikert in 1071?”

Internal weakness + new military tactics by invaders. Significantly, after the fall of Byzantium to the Ottomans, the Muslims never successfully advanced into Europe again (until now). I wonder why that was? Hint: Biological term, starts with “A.”

Sounds like you took one politically correct “history” class, jotted down a few facts that fit with your weak arguments, and came here to test run them.

They, and you, failed.

Conclusion: You’re nowhere near as bright as you think you are – and you’re an anti-White to boot. Go piss up a rope.

This is Aryan honesty, Turko:

“Ah! Finally a WN coward attempts to actually have a debate. BTW, Aslan Maskhadov is not my real name- he was a Chechen politician and military leader who died in 2006. Neither Chechens or Uzbeks are known to be huge alcoholics.”

Puerile insults are for kids, tough guy. I called you an alcoholic for your poorly thought-out ramblings.

“This is called a strawman fantasy- because it falsifies my argument by taking it out of context. My point was not that “liberalization” led to the growth of the economy or prosperity. My point was that these things have not caused America to errode. “

No it wasn’t a straw man – I did not attribute to you a position that was not yours. I took nothing out of context. I responded to your argument as I read it, as you intended it. Either you implied a causal relationship between A and B or you were being mendacious. Either way, you were wrong.

Liberalism has caused America to erode – economically, politically, morally, demographically. Modern liberalism was created especially to erode the power base of the patriarchal White society. Whites who even attempt to halt this process are attacked and sometimes even killed.

“Blacks and non-whites have no tax liability in the US? That’s a new one. Again, I am not claiming that “liberal” policies were responsible for the economic growth- what I am pointing out is that we don’t see any “errosion” of American society economically and in other spheres as a result of such policies.”

Whites pay 90% of the taxes. We receive almost no social benefits. The wealth leaves our pockets and goes into the pockets of shiftless minorities.

“Such policies” have given incompetent blacks jobs they aren’t qualified for. “Such policies” have driven down the wages of working Whites. GDP in no way reflects the economic situation on the ground. Real wages have consistently declined for Whites since the sixties.

“Integration is the cause of WHAT problem, specifically?”

See above.

“What did I say that is “anti-white”? You do realize that I am, by any WN’s standards, “white”, right?”

Implying that Whites aren’t being replaced in their own lands by immigrants as the result of Judeo-Capitalist policies is something that only a mendacious anti-White would do.

“So we can blame historical conditions and environmental issues when whites fail- but when they succeed, it’s genetic endowments huh?”

Civilizations, White or not, rise and fall. Genetic endowment was merely what allowed Whites to build civilization in the first place. Africans and (today’s) Arabs do not have such an endowment, for instance.

“Judeo-Marxists, that’s cute. Let me give you a heads up- I know more about the Russian Revolution and Marxism than you. Not everyone works off the assumption of Marxist=Jewish.”

If you’re denying the Jewish influence in the Russian revolution, you do not know more about the Russian revolution than I do. Lenin, Trotsky, Kamenev, Zinoviev, Sverdlov – no, absolutely no Jews among the Bolsheviks!

Also, I understand Marxism fine. And Marxist needn’t always equal Jew, but Jews created Marxism and have used Marxism the most effectively.

“Never said that at all.”

You clearly implied that the failure of the Russian empire was due to Russian inferiority. Read it again.

“Yet I know more about these subjects than you. If genetic endowment is what creates a great nation or society, historical conditions, obstacles, and difficulties shouldn’t be a problem. Did the English not face difficulties in building their empire? Did the American colonists not face overwhelming odds at various times?”

No, you haven’t demonstrated superior knowledge. As I said, no civilization lasts forever. Crisis is a part of human affairs regardless of how gifted a specific ethny is. “Genetic endowment” doesn’t imply perfection, just ability. Ability cannot solve all problems.

“According to a great deal of racialists, empires fall due to racial mixing. Here you admit that the fall of the Byzantine Empire was not due to such. That’s all well and good, because it also demonstrates that race is not the main determining factor in history as racialists would like us to believe.”

Well, I personally believe that history does show race to be the main determining factor at least in the building of civilizations. In the fall of civilizations, I’m not so sure. Race is not the only factor – there could be any number. By the way, I’m not in the camp that believes Whites founded all civilizations: Peruvians, Chinese, Egypt, and the Caliphates weren’t White for instance.

Again, also, you drew a false causal relationship. See if you can’t pick it out.

“I assume you mean to say no non-white empire has lasted that long. Otherwise I got some bad news for you.”

Yes, empire or state. Not nation.

“Internal weaknesses? Why didn’t the superior genetic endowment overrule such weaknesses?”

See above.

“Wow, that’s pretty funny how you try to lecture me on ignorance and lack of historical knowledge(laughable to my eyes), and then you forget the fact that post 1453 the Ottoman Empire CONTINUED to advance into Europe, reaching Austria. The high water mark was in 1683 when they were defeated at the gates of Vienna. Thanks for trying though.”

I said “successfully.” That was the qualifier. The siege of Vienna was not successful. The Balkans were pretty much satellites to other states by that time, they weren’t hard to conquer. I was right, you weren’t.

“Sounds like you have gravely underestimated the opposition, and thought that a strawman argument and semantics could win. You were mistaken.”

You used straw men, attributing to me positions that weren’t my own. I did not use a single straw man argument, I did not debate semantics at all. Stop lying.

“Conclusion- I am confident that I know far more about history than you. Granted, for the purpose of this comments section, I do not initially go into great detail, but that is beside the point. You want me to consider a variety of factors to explain, for example, the failure of the Russian empire. But do you consider historical and environmental factors when the question of problems with a non-white population crop up. I highly doubt it. No, in their case, it’s a genetic failure. The racialist motto is basically:
Whites succeed: Genetic superiority.
Whites fail: Environmental factors.
No my poor misguided WN, you are far outside of your league here. Assuming you don’t run back to Mama Stormfront like the rest of your brothers, come back and explain how I’m “anti-white”.”

Here goes: Your knowledge of history has not been demonstrated to be better than mine. Your logical ability is certainly inferior to mine. I am willing to concede that success of Whites is partly, but not wholly genetic, and that White failure is partly, but not wholly the result of environmental factors. It isn’t either-or. I don’t consider other factors than genetics in populations that have no history i.e. blacks – they are, always have been and always will be savages. Simple observation would tell you this. But you have eschewed empiricism for ideology.

I’m not misguided, I sure as hell am not poor, and I’ve never been a member of Stormfront. You fail again.