Thoughts And Questions

AG Beezy asked this question on Stormfront.

“What’s the point?

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Why do “White Nationalists” insist on making everything about race? Shouldn’t it be that you look out and live for yourself and your family no matter what color your skin is? I just don’t get this “preserve the white race” crew thing. Its almost like me saying “Oh, i’m six feet tall….i don’t like how tall people have to live with short people” and blah blah blah. Its just lame to me. Yes, black people are here to stay, some blacks are folks you don’t want to be around, and some are very respectable, intelligent and good company……deal with it. It really is silly IMO to label an entire race because of what you experience from just A PORTION of its members.”

I thought it was a good question. Why do White Nationalists have to make it about race? Why can’t they just want to concern themselves with the future of their families. It doesn’t matter what race a person is, what religion a person is, or what country a person is from; because we all want to do what is best for future generations.

White, Black, Yellow, Brown, Green, Blue, etc we all have the same dreams and hopes for our children.

I think that is a valid question of why does race have to come into everything with them?

As I will show the answers were typical of what happens when one posts a question to White Nationalists that they can’t really answer they attack the person.

H2H said this” You are right, from now on I will actively support the genocide of my own people.”
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I may be a Liberal but I don’t understand how that answers the question. Who said anything about genocide of the White race? That is the answer that White Nationalists give everytime someone asks why? So White Nationalists think that their race is becoming extint like many of the animals and plants are becoming extint because of climate change. So do White Nationalists want us to declare the White race as being in danger of becoming extint like Polar bears?  Should we add the White races to the list of endangered speices? (laugh out loud)

genocide I don’t believe is happening to the White race. I think that their are other life forms on this planet that are more in danger of becoming extint than the White race. Where is their proof that their is actual genocide taking place against the White Race? They say it and imply that anyone who is against them is for the destruction of their race.

There isn’t one sane person who wants to see mankind destroyed. I remember 1962 and the Cuban Miscle crisis. People were scared that there would be a genocide of mankind if nukes were used. Reason prevailed. I personally don’t feel that the White Race is being singled out to be destroyed.

White Restistance 14 said:
“have a better question, why do “anti-racists” insist on making everything a racial issue? Isn’t that what anti-racists have been doing for the past fifty-years?

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Originally Posted by AG beezy
Shouldn’t it be that you look out and live for yourself and your family no matter what color your skin is?

Anti-racists don’t think so. They won’t allow whites look out and live for themselves and their families. They believe in forcing racial desegregation, mass non-white immigration policies, telling white property owners what they can and can’t do with their holdings, and telling white parents what learning environment is best for their children etc.. my thoughts: Again White Nationalists instead of answering the question like to blame every problem in the world on us anti-racists.

Your post is typical of an anti-racist. Like most anti-racists, you seem to fail to realize that it was anti-racists who created the racial problems that exist. Rather than blame your ideological brethren for these problems, you come here and imply that white nationalists are to blame for the racial problems that exist. Nonsense.

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Originally Posted by AG beezy
I just don’t get this “preserve the white race” crew thing. Its almost like me saying “Oh, i’m six feet tall….i don’t like how tall people have to live with short people” and blah blah blah. Its just lame to me.

Well, it may be “lame” to you, but the vast majority of people — especially non-whites, share our views on the importance of race and racial preservation. There’s anti-racism and then there is racial reality.

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Originally Posted by AG beezy
Yes, black people are here to stay, some blacks are folks you don’t want to be around, and some are very respectable, intelligent and good company……deal with it.

We’ve been dealing with diversity for the past fifty-years. When are you anti-racists going to start facing and accepting reality? When is your ilk going to get it through your thick skulls that we all can’t just get along? Why can’t people of all races decide for themselves where they want to live and find a way to live together in harmony?  White Nationalists seem to resent the fact that Americans don’t want segragation. It doesnt’ mean we are all going to sit around the campfire singing love songs, but I think that we can find a way to understand and reach and agreement to live together so that we build a better nation for all the children.

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Originally Posted by AG beezy
It really is silly IMO to label an entire race because of what you experience from just A PORTION of its members.

Let me ask you a question. Would you agree that it’s the negative actions of small minorities within the various minority groups that have the most expensive and consequential impacts on society as a whole? That leads us to the question of whether or not diversity promotes a healthy and productive social environment.”
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I think diversity can be a good thing. It can bring in added knowledge of different cultures and traditions. It doesn’t mean that we loose our cultures or heritiage, but we can learn to enjoy other cultures besides our own. We get to enjoy the benefits of trying to food, hearing wonderful stories and songs, and I think it makes us more well rounded people. I love my Celtic Heritiage very much, but I can very much enjoy going to France or even Italy.

Movb2 said this:
“We need more weak, submissive and stupid people like AG beezy in this world. That way we can kill ourselves off even faster. I rue the day that human kind may come in contact with intelligent extraterrestrials, and all they have to meet are asiatic looking brown people with black hair and black eyes. Every single one of them.”

Just because AG beezy asked a question and they insult him. To the White Nationalists all us evil Liberals are week and stupid. Gee, we are stupid because we don’t agree with them, we ask questions, and we see through their hate and call them on it. I wouldn’t call that a weak person who has the courage to expose their hate. I would call it a person who had strength and courage.

Karl Lueger said this:
“You ‘don’t get it’ because you are a feeble minded little lemming; your lack of concern towards thing far greater than you in no way diminishes their worth. You ‘don’t get it’ because its far beyond you to comprehend and
no one should waste any more time on an antihuman like yourself..”
So now AG is called antihuman. I guess all us who don’t agree with White Nationalists are antihuman and feeble minded. I wonder if Karl’s solution will be the same as Hitler’s and the Third Reich. Round us up and kill us? You didn’t really answer the question. You just call him names. Big Brave Nazi you are Karl.

Kindred Loyalist wrote this:
“We focus on race because it was our White forefathers who created Western Civilisation and it is being handed over to others. Not only that, we are being bombed, raped, robbed, and murdered within it by foreigners.

The “six foot tall” analogy doesn’t work because people of the same height don’t necessarily have similar heritage. They do, however, when it comes to race. Despite what communists and other crazies might think, our destinies are largely determined by the gene-pool we spring from. People say we Whites are lucky to be living in the West, but in realilty we owe it not to luck, but to our forefathers hard work and innovation. Our ancestors created this brilliant civilisation that we alone ought to have inherited. Instead, it is given away to others.

Another reason the “six foot analogy” fails is because people of the same height often lack genetic similarity that is needed to constitute race.

The White race is a unique manifestation of nature, and like any other creature whose existence hangs in the balance, we must make every effort to ensure its survival.”
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Now we get the White people only founded Western Civilization and only White people should live in Western Countries. That is one myth that White Nationalists like to say is that America was founded by Whites for White people only. That is a lie.

It says for the people by the people. It doesn’t say for the White people by the people does it. People means every American Citizen. There were Black people who fought in the American Revolution. There were Jews who fought in the American Revolution. There were Germans, English, French and even women played a role in gaining Independence.

The ideals that they fought for are something that we should be fighting today. I wish I could go back into a time machine and ask my ancestors in New England at the time who fought what they thought and talk to them. I think that White Nationalists twist their writings around to make them look White Nationalists when they are not. I know White Nationalists twist Thomas Jefferson’s writing and claim him as White Nationalist.

White Bread said this:
“Where have you been living? Everything IS about Race, whether we like it or not. Ask La Raza, NAACP, Jeremiah Wright, Obama, Al Sharpton or the other millions of Asian, Latino, mixed race “rights” groups. The only reason we stand out is because we’re White, and it’s bad to be White today. Good little Whites shut their mouths and just let things happen to them and their countries unopposed, they aren’t a threat. Whites who speak up are dangerous, crazy, hateful and very unpolitically correct. Birth rate zero? You’re dying as a people? Oh, ignore it, you silly White person.
Islamists are building mosques in Europe faster than you can say takeover. They aren’t exactly our buddies, you know.

I definitely look out for my family no matter their skin color- my dad works in construction outside and gets more bronzed than you can imagine. My best friend likes to go to the tanning salon, her skin is about 4 shades darker than mine. Actually, skin color has nothing to do with Race, in case you haven’t noticed.

I’ve “dealt with” black people longer in real life than you probably have from watching them on TV. I’ve lived in gritty urban areas on more than one occasion. My personal experience is that they are exactly as every stereotype depicts them. Pretty big portion. I’ve honestly never seen any of these “respectable” “quiet” Negroes you people talk about.
As with everything in my life, I learn from experience, not from a college textbook telling us blacks are the way they are because of the White Man.

The point is that as we get closer to 2050 and beyond, this willl be a very hostile world for Whites. I can already see it when I shop at China-Mart, and my family is the only White, specificially blue eyed ones, standing in line. Big and little brown people with black eyes and unibrows eyeing us suspiciously, their kids being rude with no European style manners at all.

We, as White people, are aware of the situation we are in and face. You can pretend it’s all about “skin color”, but that’s not even an issue.”
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White Resistance 14 write this again:
“The problem with “anti-racists” is, they can’t or won’t think because they’re content letting others think for them. In other words, they’re blind adherents to political correctness.

Few anti-racists even know the origins of the term “racism,” which is a term that’s often abused to describe ethnocentrism. The term “racism” was coined by the Bolsheviks. The communist Bolsheviks viewed ethnocentrism and national pride as dangerous to the objectives of communism, so it’s no wonder that racism is equated with evil to this very day, especially when one considers the influence that communism played during the civil rights era.

Of course, communism has never been implemented successfully. That’s because it goes against human nature in every sense. But, you’re right, despite coercive ideologies like political correctness, the vast majority of people are ethnocentric and nationalist. As much as anti-racists like to believe that they’re “open-minded” and “enlightened,” it’s anti-racists who are truly the clueless ones.”

 

Don’t you just love the fact that if you are for Civil Rights of all people you are branded a communist. I am a Catholic who believes in the teachings of Jesus and my church and that is treating all people with compassion and trying to reach out to humanity with the love of Christ in my heart.

Jesus came for the whole human race and that includes you Mr. White Nationalist. He came for Whites, Blacks, Browns, green, and even blue people, lol.

I do try to be open minded and try to give people a chance. I don’t just listen to rumors but wait to make up my own mind about people. When I love someone as a friend I try and get to understand the things that are important to them even if I might not agree with it.

Have you White Nationalists been kind and respectful to AG who wanted to ask you a simple question? You haven’t really answered it. I see insults and twisting of history to try and make it sound like our Founding Fathers were White Nationalists when they were not!!!!!!!!!! You are trying to rewrite history.

Why can’t White Nationalists have real and honest debate?

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